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  1. I know how it works, you don't need to explain. This site is great in that people are very aware of statistics and use them all the time in arguments (sometimes very well). At the same time, some people look at statistics and can't take them for what they really are. You need to be able to seperate yourself from what a statistic says and understand the reasons and all the external variables that go along with it before throwing out all these claims. You can manipulate statistics to say many things. Fangraphs is throwing a number out there based on a formula. In general it is good. Unfortunatly, there are more variables that determine a players value than what is in this formula. For example, a player would not be worth as much if you knew going into the year they were going to miss the last 1/4 of the year and they couldn't pitch in the playoffs. For 1, the teams that would pay that much that are driving that number so high have goals of winning the world series...not just making the playoffs. So they wouldn't come close to giving that kind of money to a guy that wouldn't help them once they reached the playoffs. The fact is no team in their right mind would pay any pitcher 20.6 million a year to continually do what he did. Pitch very well for 3/4 of the year but then miss the end of the year and the playoffs. I realize he was important for a good part of the year. I realize we wouldn't have made the playoffs without him. I also realize we wouldn't have made the playoffs if we didn't have a dozen other players on the roster. Most of the other dozen players were not worth 20.6 million either.
  2. Where did anyone say that Sheets winning games for us early in the season didn't matter? It did matter, just not worth close to 20.6 million. If Sheets was worth 20.6 million than every payroll in baseball would be over 150 million.
  3. The problem with that is that the domino affect doesn't end with the #6 starter. That #6 pitcher then gets replaced with the #13th or 14th best pitcher. Unless the value you talk about would be if the brewers brought up a minor leaguer having no impact on the bullpen other than the extra innings they have to throw. Peoples argument about bringing CC in was that it gave the brewers a true opportunity to go deep in the playoffs (placing a higher value on these games). If that is the case, than a lower value also needs to be placed on Sheets for missing the most important time. If you want to believe fangraphs that Sheets was worth 20.6 mil last year despite missing the most important time of the year then go ahead. I will disagree and be thankful you are not pulling the strings for the Brewers.
  4. The problem with Sheets is that he really was not an athlete. Other than his great right arm which carried him in baseball, IMO he didn't have any sort of ability to do any sport past high school. I have never bood Sheets in my life but I will be the 1st to say I couldn't wait until his contract was up and he was out of town. A team with a small payroll like the Brewers can not afford to have a guy who is paid that much be hurt constantly. It also bothers me when I see a professional athlete take care of their body less than I do when my work does not require me to be a great athlete.
  5. Lets not make Sheets a victim because he was injured or bood. The guy was paid 10+ million a year for playing a sport. If he can't perform year after year because of injury he can expect to be bood. That is just part of the game.
  6. Escobar will not be traded. The brewers can't continue trading top talent who they would have for a low price for awhile. IMO there are a group of 4 guys who could be traded before the end of the year. They are Prince, Hardy, Cameron and Hart.
  7. I don't get it at all. The only thing I can think of is they do not think as highly of Gamel as a lot of fans do. You do not let a top prospect ride the pine. Even if you don't think he can play 3rd, then move him to a different position and let him practice in AAA. Don't let him sit on the bench and lose his rythem and what he had going. IMO his bat is not going to be a big help off the bench anyway as he is a young player who has never played a bench role before.
  8. Extremely disapointed with how they are handling Gamel. You bring him up to sit on the bench? I don't get it. Why have him come up and sit on the bench for a week plus before you DH him? Sitting anyone for awhile and then throwing them in there makes it difficult..especially for a young guy. I don't think he will be very successful in his DH role if he goes into it sitting on the bench for over a week. If you are happy with what you have at 3rd base, then leave him in AAA or move him to another position where he will get PT.
  9. The situation with Fielder is different than Gamel's. Gamel plays a much more difficult defensive position and he is still trying to grow in it. You take a month off from playing 1st and is it really a big deal? You take a month off from playing 3rd and that can be a different story..especially for a young player trying to figure it out. Gamel is also a couple years older than Fielder was. By the end of this year they needed to figure out if Gamel can stay at 3rd. IMO if they are going to put him in a bench/pinch hit role for a significant amount of time they have given up on him at 3rd and plan on moving him to a different position next year. I hope that is not the case and they give him a chance before moving him. He had a good 3+ week run at 3rd before being called up. On top of that, he has never been in a pinch hit role before other than a couple at bats, and that is very difficult for a young player.
  10. They might platoon right away, but someone will be traded then. It will not be a year long thing. Hall can play a lot of positions so it definetly does not have to be him that is traded. It could be Cameron, Hart, JJ or Fielder as well if Gamel stinks it up right away at 3rd.
  11. If Gamel is up for good, he will be playing every day. He will get some days off against lefties but IMO you don't platoon a stud hitter until he proves he can't hit left handed pitching. He has hit it well in the minors. You have to also remember that spot starting and pinch hitting is NOT easy...especially for a young player. This is not going to be Gamel's role.
  12. It all depends on if Hall can continue playing as well as he has so far. If he starts hitting like he did the last couple years, Gamel would help a lot. Also, Hall would sure make our bench look a bit better than it is right now. There is always the option of trading Hall as if he keeps this up he should have some value.
  13. Again, that article mentions terrible throwing accuracy. I am sure that accuracy was made to look worse throwing to a short and obese 1st baseman with poor footwork and little ability to scoop a ball.
  14. To say he is the worst ever is just being negative. I am sure his defensive numbers were not helped any throwing to a short and obese 1st baseman with poor footwork and little ability to scoop a ball. In general, defensive statistics are spotty at best to make such a definite claim. There are many external variables that can significantly skew statistics.
  15. Exactly. Makes perfect sense and I have agreed with that like 10 times already. Our only disagreement is you prefer to rent a player where I prefer a player who will pitch more than 15 starts.
  16. Soon as in the next 2 years. What I meant is he is not a long term solution
  17. Where did I mention anything about the trade having to happen mid season? Completely confused by that comment. It is no secret Prince has to go soon. JJ possibly as well. If we packaged LaPorta with Prince you are telling me we couldn't get 1 or 2 very good young pitchers? When dealing with long term success...the goal is to have as much value or "pieces" as possible. We gave up some of that by renting a player. We can still be successful, but we don't have as many "chips" to play with. I am done commenting on this because this could go on forever. I guess it is all about perception. I always think long term and make things sustainable over time. Obviously some like to think short term.
  18. If we won the world series it probably would have been worth it. But you can't really look at it like that. Doug should be doing what is best for the team not only now, but long term. Based on probability, it is more likely we win a world series if we either keep the LaPorta package or trade them for someone that will be around for awhile. The mindset some people have on here is driving me crazy. THIS IS NOT THE BREWERS FROM THE 1990's! I don't care that we didn't make the playoffs in a long time. Those teams didn't have 2 of the top 15 hitters in baseball on the team. Those teams didn't have the overall depth at each position that we currently do now. We have a chance to be competitive for awhile. Stop bringing up all the bad brewers teams because they do not matter how this team in the future can perform and act like we had to go for it last year just because we "had a chance".
  19. Poor logic. When managing a team or making moves for the future it is all about dealing with probability. Based on our roster makeup, there was no reason to think last year was our only realistic playoff chance. We should have a chance for awhile. This is not the Brewers from the 1990's. We had a lot of young talent in the majors and minors. And in your case if our star LFer would develop a chronic back injury it sure would be nice to be able to plug LaPorta in that spot so we would still possibly have a plus bat out there.
  20. On baseball tonight Gammons was just talking about how great of guy LaPorta is. I think people are making to big of deal over that. He may not be perfect, but nobody is. I have no problem with him being traded, but trading him for 0.5 years is a desperate move. Trade him for a player who has a chance to help long term.
  21. I am not ignoring it. If you read, I specifically said trading them will make it "more difficult". I never said they wouldn't. I don't care what happened 20 years ago. All those brewer teams did not have the offensive talent this team has and has built up in the minors. The one thing we are lacking is pitching and pitching prospects. We still do have a few good hitting prospects, but we will also need them to replace the offensive production of Fielder and a few others who will be gone in a year or 2. Laporta was the one player who had good value but we really did not need. We gave that valuable piece away for 0.5 years. Again, that is my only problem with it. This team was set up to be very competitive for 5+ years (and still is for the most part), because of that...I feel like we were to desperate last year and gave away to much for such short term value.
  22. Correct. The point of sports is supposed to be to win something. We didn't win anything last year. Not the division, not a playoff series. Nothing. Winning a playoff spot? I am happy about the fact we made the playoffs..but the ultimate goal is the world series. Why did we have to go for it all last year? What made last years team special that this years team wouldn't have had? Our roster and minor leagues were set up where we had a good chance to be competitive for awhile. Getting rid of those players for no long term value makes that more difficult. Based on probability, if you throw a good team on the field 5 or 6 years in a row, you are much more likely to "win something" as opposed to looking short term and concentrating on 1 year. My only problem with it is getting a player that will help for only 0.5 years. You are riding a slippery slope when a small market team gets rid of their top prospects for such short term value.
  23. I was not saying we would have the opportunity at another player at CC's level. Obviously we couldn't get a player like him that was under contract for awhile. You can still get a pretty good pitcher for the package we gave up. I guess I don't see why anything should change with management just because we made the playoffs. People are making it a bigger deal than it really is.
  24. I still think some don't understand what I am saying. I am fine with them being traded. I just don't like that we traded big pieces for something so short term. I am all about being competitive over the long term. Not just a 1 and done deal. We have some good major leaguers locked up long term and had a lot of great hitting prospects to keep the offense good for the next 5+ years. What this team is missing is pitching prospects that can keep us highly competitive. Given that, it was a good idea to trade a couple of our hitting prospects...but it would have been more benefitial for the brewers long term if they traded for someone that would have been here 3+ years.
  25. I never said we should have hung onto Laporta and Brantly forever. In fact, I have no problem with them being traded. I just don't like the fact they were traded for 0.5 years of pitching. Getting a pitcher that we would have had for 3+ years would have been my prefered scenario.
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