And I'll ask one more time still...for what purpose? naivin, please just stop asking the question. Why does any manager ever get fired? The way you spin it, it's as though player performance is never a reason behind a manager getting the boot. Haven't you ever found that you worked harder at a job working for one manager as opposed to another. Not because you chose to work hard or not, but because you responded differently to different people. I've never slacked off at any job, but I did achieve more than I ever thought imaginable in a short span working under a boss who drove me beyond my expectations. He never let me relax. I'd acquire a skill in one week. I'd expect that I'd have a month or two to get comfortable with the new tasks on my plate. Instead he'd throw something else at me the next week. I was running the company in under a year. If I had worked under my timeframe, it would've taken me 10 years to accomplish all that. If it took more than results on the field to get a manager canned then we'd only see them fired when they commit embarrassing public acts.