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You are giving them way more than Yelich for a fraction of the control time as Yelich and less overall WAR? I get that catcher is a black hole, but you are sending them 2 SP, a 4th OF, and a C for 6-7 WAR? YES if you think that gets you a chance at making it to the World Series. Absolutely NO, if you think it gives you a lock on a WC... Not worth it at all, and the Marlins are going to be looking at a Yelich package as the top of what they can expect as most GMs aren't going to mortgage the future for 6-7 WAR over 1.4 seasons...

The rules of democracy don't really apply to a private entity. Yes they do, but as you state a private entity isn't held to the same standards as public institutions. While you are working plenty of your "freedoms" and rights aren't necessarily protected. On your own time, most private entities do not have any grounds to regulate your freedoms when you keep those activities out of the public domain (a tweet from a 17YO in some town in MD, may not be considered the same as say Colin Kaepernick's National Anthem stand/non). As I said, your employer has some claims on your personal time in certain situations such as a professional sport team and a performer/player. There are also other situations - if I post on my social media account inflammatory material such as hate speech then yes I can be let go by my employer as there is an ethics clause in my employment contract. If I want to get handcuffed and spanked for pleasure in the privacy of my home, there's nothing my employer can do... If a hacker cracked my webcam and posted some of the material on youtube/"on the line" I am still protected from recriminations as I did not post the material (unlawful means of accessing information, does not allow a private company to use such material - ie. ground for termination). Seattle was very open about why they didn't bring Colin Kaepernick in. Employers have much more leeway to not interview someone for a job. Pretty much the only issue for the seahawks would be if they said he was black so they wouldn't interview him or one of the other protected classes then they are in big trouble, but stating they don't agree with his stance on certain issues is not protected (i.e. CK has no "rights"). Employers do what they want plenty of times irrespective of the law. My employer ignores complete sections of offers of employment letters that they made. I have had 3 colleagues leave recently because their conditions of employment were just completely ignored. Most lawyers whom I or my colleagues talk with say the same thing - "you have grounds to sue, but are you willing to end your career?". My employer knows that most of my colleagues don't want to end their careers over these issues. Neither would Hader, if push comes to shove, nor any other player. The reward from complying is greater than any stand you make. That doesn't mean that companies can do what they want. And as I have said several times in these posts, there are plenty of ways for a company to punish someone in ways that it makes it impossible to sue, but that doesn't mean they have the right or that the employee has no rights.

I blame them for not having this cleaned up before it became a story. I can't believe they don't (or didn't because I'm sure they do now) have someone in their marketing / PR department who's job it was to review social media for all the players in their organization. If you read past the line you quoted of my post, you will see that I pretty much agree with you. I don't think the Brewers should be blamed for the content of Hader's tweets prior to him becoming a Brewer. I do believe they should do some forensic searching to point out to players that there are posts that are objectionable. Remember we still live in a democracy. While the Brewers (as his employer) have a very good argument that they can control his twitter and social media (as these reflect directly upon Hader's employer), they do not have the right to regulate his prior twits (i.e. Free Speech)... It's a fine line, but they can tell him that all of his social media releases must be "approved" and they can tell him that his past needs to be cleaned up before he's allowed to continue with approval posting on social media. They can't tell him to delete pre-Brewers stuff outright, but I assume since he has shown contrition that if they had flagged these from when he was 17 that he would have deleted them himself... An employer can't control what you do in your private life, but they can argue that given the type of job/industry that they are in that a player really has no private life when they post under their own name...

- I feel worse for the Brewers organization. I don't as I can't imagine how anyone would apportion blame to them... I know your friends may feel bad, but over-reacting won't help them. I'm sure the Brewer organization has been busy the last few days making sure the same landmines aren't in any other players closet, but they have the resources that they should have been doing this anyways for anyone they add to the organization. Unfortunately in 2018 it needs to be part of a companies SOP...

He's failed the last two July's to get his number one target. I don't know how else you can spin it other than to say he failed. I'd love to see you on ebay... Would you just keep bidding up, no matter what, when someone else with deep pockets has no limit to what they will spend? It's no different than a gambler who can't control themselves and loses everything they have, and can borrow... There's a point where you determine what price you will put on something and you have to stick to it... I'm glad Stearns is not Art Schlichter or Pete Rose...

In fact, as I thought about it this morning I guess that's what is still missing. I would like to hear more detail on the context these comments were made. He doesn't owe me that, he doesn't owe me anything. Just saying for me to get comfortable cheering for him again, I would like to know. Not speaking for anyone else. I think that would likely help, but I doubt that we're going to see the details as his reps will see no upside to releasing that as they are already dealing with the worst case scenario... (or they think)...

I really want him to ramp it up , but until we see a week or two of consistency, I don't know what he is anymore Unfortunately, we've already played this game with Villar and the results aren't so positive. I think Santana is a better hitter than Villar so I still have hope he won't remain at his pre-2017 performance level for too much longer... With Santana I have a bit more hope that his regression was mostly mental (on the trade block all winter, 2 new OF brought in, etc.) while with Villar I think his 2016 was probably more fluke than real and Santana's 2017 more real than fluke...

I think there's a decent chance we see Arcia back sooner rather than later. My 50+ YO fat gut could outhit Arcia in 70PA in the PCL... I say leave him until it's clear he actually can finally hit... If Chris Davis wasn't around Arcia would be in the discussion for worst batter in MLB... His approach was atrocious while in Milwaukee and I'd like to see at least 200PA of decent production in the PCL before I add him back to our already dysfunctional offense...

Edit: Travis Sarandos over at BrewCrew Ball said it better than I ever could. I read about a third of that post and stopped after reading this: Sorry, but if someone is going to parse every word from a guy, after just crapping his pants in the biggest game he's ever pitched in when a twitter storm of level 5 is heading right between his eyes, and take issue with the EXACT word he used to apologize is beyond ridiculous... and not worth my time to read any more of his drivel...

My apologies When is my sensitivity training class? LOL... Maybe a week of watching only the Lifetime channel will be sufficient punishment/rehabilitation...

They aren't heros and they aren't philosophers. Some of my heroes are Philosophers! Now you have gone too far...

A dodgers fan site had them ranked 11th, 77th, 50th, 56th and >80 going into 2018 with the issue with Diaz his likely inability to continue in CF due to poor range, while his bat doesn't play to a corner OF position. As Adam said, not really a very impressive group. Broxton for Machado, would probably have been a better deal...

I said dumb stuff when I was 17. I never said I hate gay people or any kkk white power crap. That's great, neither did I, but I'm the only one who's walked my path and everyone else has their own path to walk. I am not going to hold anyone to what I did or use what I did as the gold standard of how other people should act, even what I did is the universally accepted approach... a great quote from one of my favorite books (To Kill A Mockingbird): “You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view…until you climb in his skin and walk around in it.” It is applicable to people who are racists and gay haters and it is also applicable to those who wish to pass judgement...

He should refuse to go through sensitivity training if he honestly doesn't have those beliefs anymore, or never had them. And I've been as hard on him as anyone, but how can you be trained to be sensitive if you already are? I work for a corporation that has over 10,000 employees. I manage a small group. I have to take yearly and bi-yearly training for the same topics over and over again no matter how many times I've been perfect on testing the previous cycle. It's what corporate america does to cover their butts... Why so often? Because none of it is based on what is right, but it is based on what is LEGAL and court cases every year change what is legal... I can refuse to take the training because I already "know" it, but they then do things like freezing my budget and paycheck... So I have reasons to just go through with it as it isn't worth taking a stand against sexual harassment training as that is never a winning look... neither would be fighting against taking sensitivity training... While the Brewers aren't anywhere near that large, as a company with revenues in excess of $100M, staff and managers should be required to go through some forms of training. Sensitivity training also evolves over time. There isn't a set of universals that is written in stone ...

maybe torts is short for Torquemada The Spaniard....

Professional sports teams employ individuals who give instructions to the players on ways people will try to exploit them or take advantage of them once they are young, rich and famous. I'm assuming that would include social media history. That he ignored any such advice, was not private on social media or didn't bother to delete them years later says more about his intelligence than anything else. He signed a contract through an agent/agency when he was drafted and he's had representation ever since. They are taking a % of his money and THEY should be primarily focused on making sure their aren't any mines floating around that could be detonated... And if they don't have the capabilities then they shouldn't be in the business of taking money from players... The Brewers responsibility is to do due diligence before acquiring a player and to make sure nothing happens while he is with the organization... The Brewers don't even need to have someone in house, there are companies that you can pay to do a background check on someone including social media...

I am too old to grasp the desire or need to get involved with social media. I grew up in the age where people talked to each other either in person or on the phone, made friends by interacting one-on-one and any thoughts I expressed were lost in the ether of someones memory or just lost and not stored on a server in some remote "cloud"... Today we have so many outlets where people are sitting alone and publishing their thoughts to be stored forever and even if they delete them could be cached on a google server somewhere.... These are no longer random, stupid stuff that you don't believe in, or fully understood the perception of a viewer, they are a part of your permanent record... What get's lost in the current climate is that you are a record of all of your thoughts and deeds and not just of a subset of your record... So we are shocked by the fraction of a persons tweets/posts, while we ignore >99.99% of what they have done and say/post... I don't have a problem with how Hader has handled the situation... He's answered questions and disavowed the tweets... He in no way has advocated or supported the hate, which is all we can expect from someone who makes a mistake like he did... The issue should be with those that peddle the same stereotypes and hate when they have the chance to disavow them (like the "musicians" he is quoting)...

Suter starting back to back games? what grit...

This is last years offense with Cain/Yelich/SS replacing Santana/Braun/Arcia... Thames has been hurt quit a bit and Shaw is Shaw... We couldn't score runs the 2nd half of last year and the same is true with the current lineup. The dropoff in production from Santana/Braun/Arcia means we shouldn't be buyers this trade deadline as we still have too many holes to fill...

only 3 more solo HRs and we're tied...

Except he threw more pitches than any other start (IIRC)...

So that's what moving the runner over/getting him in looks like....

I'm sure their agents have someone do it for them but it does seem pretty ridiculous. A guy like Ryan Braun probably doesn't know or really care all that much but someone like Eric Sogard who's not making much (relatively speaking) and is playing in both major and minor league cities that is probably a very expensive headache to deal with. I bet the players union gives them advice and/or associates with people to help them out. I'm sure 99% of the details fall on the Brewers as they need to provide a W2 to each player for their respective pay for each state and for withholding. A state IRS will go after an employer 100 times before they go after an individual. Any CPA would then process through the W2s and make sure the taxes are paid/refunded accordingly. It's complicated, not difficult.

17 games over .500 is proof that the current bullpen usage is working. No it does not prove anything. Not mathematical or logical. Proof would be taking the same players and changing the bullpen usage over the same time frame and having the team reach less than 17 games over 0.500. Since that is impossible to do, you can't prove anything from being 17 games over 0.500. You can attempt to answer the question by simulating millions of games where you change the bullpen usage at each time then play the remainder of the game based on averages and weighted outcomes then look at the stretch of games to see how the outcomes changed... You would probably need some heavy computing time and a fairly sophisticated algorithm to handle the game outcomes. Probably on the order of what JPL or astronomy uses to process images for our galaxy... I'd hate to have them process our little study and miss the planet killing asteroid heading our way, but then bruce willis probably is too old and ben affleck too fat to save the planet, so maybe knowing the answer to our baseball simulation might be more important before the end of the world...

He's throwing 94 or so, that looks about normal to me. 1 pitch this inning at 94, the rest 90-92...