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Brewers reportedly had the second best offer on Quintana last year (supposedly the best offer until the Cubs swooped in very late) and now allegedly the second strongest offer for Machado. I would love to someday know the exact players the Brewers offered up in both deals.
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Is There Pressure To Make The Postseason?
Eye Black replied to MrTPlush's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
The Brewers have the 5th longest current playoff drought in MLB, and have been to the playoffs 4 times in the organization’s 50 year history (49 years in Milwaukee). They made big splashes in the off-season and started the season 54-36 before a pre-All-Star break collapse. I think it’s fair to say there is some pressure. -
In 2011 I was convinced the Brewers should’ve found a way to turn Tyler Thornburg and others into SS Jose Reyes. Ultimately that didn’t work out, but turned out to be a blessing in disguise. I think there is a very good chance the Brewers are ready to move some prospects for tangible major league assets, and the guys being offered up for Machado could still be a part of bringing back significant talent. They could also obviously stick with the organization and turn out to be very good players. I won’t shed a tear over losing out on Machado, but that doesn’t mean I won’t also daydream about what might have been. Another observation, losing out on Quintana last season and Machado this season goes to show the increased importance of having success in scouting and signing impact International prospects. For the Brewers to have sustained success over the next 5-7 years it will be very important that they hit on a handful of International prospects along the way.
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If they miss out on Machado
Eye Black replied to StCroixCtyBrewer's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
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I love this. And also, of course now the Orioles decide they’re into International prospects.
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Just updated the link for the newly released list which includes Mitch Haniger at #33.
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If it turns out everything leaked over the past day was just a giant smoke screen while the Brewers and Orioles hammered out a deal to be announced post All-Star Game I would be so into it.
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From Rosenthal.. #Orioles will keep other clubs engaged until end in event they need to pivot. They have had top scout sitting on #Dodgers ’ system in recent days. But nothing will be done until the O’s are comfortable with the deal they are getting and the medicals of the players involved. One way or another it looks like there is a decent chance we’ll get to see Machado at Miller Park this weekend.
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Completely agree with that point. The Phillies may very well be the Brewers biggest competition for a playoff spot down the stretch.
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I did a quick search and saw something that said he was, but clearly you are correct. Oops, yeah I thought he was as well (could have swore I read that he was recently). That is my mistake, thank you for the correction.
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Weird that only hours after the Yankees are said to be "out" on Machado, a reporter known as Scott Boras' mouthpiece would report the team in the other biggest market in baseball is now totally interested and in the lead for Machado.
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For more than a decade Fangraphs Trade Value rankings were complied annually by Dave Cameron. With Cameron now with the Padres the exercise is now led by Kiley McDaniel. It is always an intriguing exercise that combines player value with team control and overall contract/salary owed to determine each players trade value. They gather feedback from several industry sources while they compile the list. It also includes consideration of the current trade value of top prospects. The individual rankings are certainly debatable, but it is a interesting way to compare players. They have an honorable mention category followed by unveiling the top 50 in increments of 10. As they release each update I will link them in this initial post and list which Brewers are included. Honorable Mentions: Josh Hader, Jesús Aguilar #41 to #50: No current Brewers, former Brewers SS Jean Segura (#49) #31 to #40: No current Brewers, former Brewers prospect Mitch Haniger (#33) #21 to #30: Christian Yelich (#22) #11 to #20: No Brewers #1 to #10: No Brewers Using this same concept I would be curious to see someone take a stab at ranking the top ten players in the Brewers organization in terms of current trade value? Yelich would have to be #1, but then I think the next pool of players would include Hader, Aguilar, Hiura, Shaw, Knebel, and Cain (even with the salary/age). In my opinion it gets difficult after that point.
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If you are going to continue to post like you have received “insider information” you need to be more specific about where this alleged information was posted. You said your friend received this information from an Indians social media source, but now there doesn’t appear to be any recollection of where the information came from? Frankly that isn’t believable. We will leave your posts up for now and we certainly encourage posters to share information they believe to be credible as long as they are making an honest effort to be as forthcoming as possible. I would encourage you to begin providing evidence of your finding before continuing to discuss this in absolutes. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Typically I would advocate for a team trading for prospects taking the “quality over quantity” approach, but in the case of the Orioles I think they are in such despair that it is clear they are a long way from being competitive again. With the volatility of pitching prospects and the likely long bottom out process ahead I think they would be smart to seek a handful solid position prospects. That doesn’t seem to be the route they are going, however.
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I really didn't get that vibe at all. He wasn't even a board member during the HH19 incidents. look, i have no idea what HH19 is. Im not here to cause trouble. Im a sth in 215. I wear my pennebaker brewer jersey (Mr 3000 character) That’s fitting because this strikes me as the T-Rex Pennebaker equivalent of a trade rumor.
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I get the sense we will know within an hour of the conclusion of tomorrow night’s All-Star Game where Machado is heading. At this point it seems like Philly makes the most sense when you factor in that they are very hopeful of signing him in the off-season as well. Maybe the whole “goodwill gesture” thing is overblown, but it seems at least plausible that it is a factor the Phillies may value in addition to making their present team better.
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I would call average somewhere between 90-110 wRC+ and between .725-.800 OPS. Either way, there seems to be a pretty significant drop off from the top group to the bottom currently.
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Another way to illustrate the point is to compare the performance this season with the competition to win the division, the Cubs. The Cubs roster construction is ultimately where the Brewers want to be in terms of not having glaring positions of weakness. The odds of consistent run production increase significantly if you can shore up having the last third of your lineup being a black hole offensively. Below is a by position comparison to the Cubs so far this season using the 2018 MLB Team Position Performance by Baseball-Reference Wins Above Average:
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The Brewers NL waiver priority moved ahead of the Cubs. Hey, it’s something.
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The irony is average players literally could help this team considerably AND you can get those players for guys that are possibly going to be left unprotected in the upcoming Rule 5 draft. The “big splash” trades are the guys who are going to cost you the prospects that are worth saving.
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Just put this in another thread in the Major League forum, but I am not convinced they have a single average hitter currently on the roster.
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Looking at the 2018 season results thus far which hitters still on the 40-man roster that have played with some regularity this season would you place into each of the following categories: Star Production (or at least Above Average) Average Production Below Average Production I did this exercise and came up with the what is included below. Feel free to draw your own conclusions and share them if you disagree with my assessments. It is hard to believe this roster is performing with such a significant gap between the high end performers and the low end performers. I wasn’t able to come up with a single player that I would currently classify as giving “average offensive production” at their position. Star Production Jesús Aguilar (159 wRC+ / .996 OPS) Eric Thames (135 wRC+ / .901 OPS) Lorenzo Cain (129 wRC+ / .833 OPS) Christian Yelich (119 wRC+ / .814 OPS) Travis Shaw (114 wRC+ / .808 OPS) Tyler Saladino (126 wRC+ / .841 OPS) - Small Sample Size Average Production ??? Below Average Production Jonathan Villar (86 wRC+ / .693 OPS) Ryan Braun (84 wRC+ / .711 OPS) Manny Piña (78 wRC+ / .671 OPS) Domingo Santana (78 wRC+ / .667 OPS) Hernán Pérez (77 wRC+ / .671 OPS) Orlando Arcia (27 wRC+ / .482 OPS) Brad Miller (83 wRC+ / .698 OPS) - Small Sample Size Erik Kratz (74 wRC+ / .656 OPS) - Small Sample Size
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I am still slightly in favor of making an aggressive push for Machado, but that desire is diminishing by the day for me. A week ago I would have been okay with giving up either Burnes or Woodruff as part of a package for Machado, and I am now much less interested in losing either of those players for a max of 64 regular season games of Manny Machado. If the Orioles hold on to him until the deadline the Brewers will only have 52 games left in the season and at that point I don’t think I could reconcile the idea of losing a future starting rotation arm for an improved chance to chase a Wild Card game appearance.
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Villar to DL (thumb); Phillips up
Eye Black replied to JohnBriggs12's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Any bets as to whether the Brewers will have a new middle infield option by the time Villar returns from the disabled list? I’ll guess it’s more likely than not.
