Mass, I'm a big Grieve defender, but I also have to agree with you on this one. I didn't see it, but I could tell from Powell's call, (and sarcasm) that it wasn't pretty. I'd like to know what % of Grieve's K's are looking, and how that compares to league average. If there is a single guy in baseball who is (at times) TOO patient at the plate, it's Ben Grieve. Hey, can you tell me what happened with Powell's call and how it involved Grieve? I happen to like Grieve a lot (biased because I'm a fan of his), but wanted to see what happened. Thanks. Tim