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Thank you for doing this. It is fun to see where we have them ranked compared to other websites out there. I also use this because I am ten and still play The Show and I like to create the prospects of the Brewers.

Is anyone debating that he didn't lie? Haven't seen that stance taken by anyone unless I missed it.

Boy, maybe I'm way off on Happ but he just doesn't scream NBA player to me. He's a great college basketball player and he'll probably bounce around the G league or whatever it's called now for awhile but at some point, don't you have to be able to shoot the basketball?

Perez is out of options. Well, so much for that idea. Thanks. Would Perez sneak by the waivers? I know he's versatile but it's not like he sets the world on fire with the bat. I just wish they wouldn't have signed Sogard and none of this is probably an issue.

I think you might want to check Robin Yount's statistics again. Did he have the top-tier home run power that Braun had? No, but, then again, he was a shortstop, and later a center fielder in an era where eye popping home run totals were not commonplace, especially at those positions. Yount and Cal Ripken Jr were the exceptions to the norm at short (Alan Trammel had some power, too). The peak of Robin Yount's career was 1980-1989. He had more hits than anybody in baseball in the decade, 1,731. And he had a 135 OPS + during that span. Just remember, "power" is more than home runs. Here are Robin's 162 game averages between 1980-'89: .305 AVG, 108 runs scored, 194 hits, 38 double, 10 triples, 20 home runs, 92 RBI, 17 SB, slash line of .365/.485/.850. And, again, that's in an era where the home run was at a premium. Yount's peak was 29 in his 1982 A.L. MVP season. During the decade, only two players came close to hitting 50 home runs in a season, Mark McGwire's 49 in 1987, and Andre Dawson's 49 the same season. Mike Schmidt hit 48 in 1980. There were only thirteen 40 home run seasons in the Majors in the entire decade. What about Braun? His prime was 2007 to 2012. Braun's peak was a National League-leading 41 in 2012. Between 2007 and 2012, only six years, there were twenty-two 40 home run seasons in the Majors, including three 50 home run seasons. If you look at 2007 to 2016, there were forty-two 40 home run seasons in the Majors. Thirteen 40 home run seasons in the Majors between 1980 and 1989. Forty-two 40 home run seasons in the Majors between 2007 and 2016. More than three times as many. The point? Context is everything in baseball. And Robin Yount the hitter is a lot closer to Ryan Braun than you might first glean looking at their stats. Compare each player's peak OPS + seasons. Braun 166 (2011) 158 (2012) 154 (2007) 146 (2009) Yount 166 (1982) 152 (1989) 150 (1983) 133 (1988) Braun's OPS + 2007 to 2017: 139. Braun the "superior hitter" was 39% above average for his first decade. Yount's OPS + 1980 to 1989: 135. Yount was 35% above average for his peak decade, only 4% behind Braun. I think it's highly inaccurate to say that Yount was never the hitter Ryan Braun is. Yes, I agree with what you said. I shorted Robin a bit. I dug deeper into the numbers. Braun is in his 12th season so I took his first 11 years (age 23-33) and compared them to Robin's age 23-33 years (which was his prime) and here is what I got: Here are Robin's 162 game averages between 23-33 years old: Games: 145 At Bats: 560 AVG: .300 OBP: .357 SLG: .470 OPS: .828 OPS+: 129 R: 93.5 H: 171 2B: 24 3B: 8 HR: 16.5 RBI: 79 SB: 14.5 Here are Braun's 162 game averages between 23-33 years old: Games: 132 At Bats: 513 AVG: .301 OBP: .364 SLG: .540 OPS: .904 OPS+: 139 R: 85.5 H: 155 2B: 31 3B: 4 HR: 27.5 RBI: 91 SB: 17.5

Well of course Braun passed Cameron on the all time hits list with his dinger last night.

Per Adam McCalvy

So Robin Yount shouldn't be in the Hall or listed in the same sentence as Braun either? Robin was never the hitter Braun is either. Robin is beloved by Brewers fans and I get it, but we are talking different eras. I’m sure Braun would have loved to jump to the majors at 18 and start collecting counting stats like Robin got to. And Robin’s OPS would be well over .800 without those first four years that drag that sucker down. Makes a huge difference. Different eras but Mike Cameron doesn’t belong in either of these twos sentences and that’s not a knock on Cameron, he’s just not in eithers league.

Yep, very close to Perez taking that at-bat. Same result probably.

More hated now.

Haha this is great. Well done man. Even as a big Braun guy I semi questioned why Santana was sitting two games in a row.

Lol... Braaaaaaaaaaaunie!!!!

Sounds like a lead off walk and a bomb to end this one. [sarcasm]I was kind of hoping to see Yelich bat again.[/sarcasm] Can’t imagine why?!?! Booooyaaaahhhhh!!!

I'd rather have seen Choi than either. So true.

I think I would’ve rather seen Perez than Sogard. That was hard to type.

Sounds like a lead off walk and a bomb to end this one.

Ah, there it is, the same, tired Ad hominem attacks. What exactly was it that you found so offensive because you are literally agreeing with what I said. I’ll respond in a PM to not drag down this thread.

Don't think Albers is the 8th inning guy despite what BA/Rock said. Think it'll just depend on the night and situation. I don't even think there should be such a thing as an 8th inning guy. I don’t either it feels like Albers has only been in the game in the 8th. Small sample alert. I’d much rather see some electric arms later in the game.

Kind of hoping Barnes keeps tossing the way he has and he and Hader become the 7/8 guys instead of Haders/Albers.

Blues been generous all night to Cardinal pitchers. So much for the home effect for Milwaukee.

Who said we couldn’t have improved it? I surely didn’t. Saying that there wasn’t a deal out there for Santana isn’t nearly the same thing as what you’re trying to imply. Plenty of other ways the pitching staff could have been improved on without dealing Santana. Stearns didn’t see the need to do it and so now we will see how right he is. You're attitude on FA signings wasn't any different. You have spent plenty of time telling me how much better this rotation was going to be over what I thought it was going to be. Even so, I highly doubt they couldn't have leveraged Santana as part of a deal to get what they needed. I didn’t want to be saddled with a long free agent contract to an aging pitcher. There was nothing stopping Stearns from signing plenty of pitchers on 1-2 year deals.(Unless pitchers really didn’t want to sign here) He obviously thought otherwise. I’ll let that play itself out mod edit: deleted a few incendiary phrases. stick with the above

Positive note tonight; Barnes and Jeffress continue to pitch well. Good to see. What I hate seeing is Mike Maddux in a Cardinals uniform. Ugly.

Who said we couldn’t have improved it? I surely didn’t. Saying that there wasn’t a deal out there for Santana isn’t nearly the same thing as what you’re trying to imply. Plenty of other ways the pitching staff could have been improved on without dealing Santana. Stearns didn’t see the need to do it and so now we will see how right he is.

Thought Santana might stay in for Braun there.

Testing your two run theory right now. Well, got one. Can't blame Braun, he smoked it, just right at him. Hit it hard but I’d rather be looks for a pitch up to smash than swing at low and inside early in the count.