He'll probably say they would've won 120 of he wasn't the manager... He'll probably say your team better win 96 games with Greinke, Gallardo, Marcum, Hart, Braun, Fielder, Weeks, and Axford all in their prime. Free swinging and making outs on the bases is the exact opposite of what it takes to be a winning baseball team and that's pretty much what Roenicke is promoting with his style. The problem is he is too "nice" and so guys think they can keep making the same mistakes without any recourse. Do you disagree? RR's managing style was frustrating. The guys kept making the same stupid mistakes while RR would stand there in the dugout impassively. Hitters had zero plate discipline and if they walked it was a miracle. Our guys rarely could figure out how to drive in a run with RISP and only one out. He kept pitchers in even if they couldn't find the plate in hopes the guy could work out of the jam the poor smuck created. Often RR only had one guy up in the 'pen. It was almost like it didn't occur to RR that the guy he put in there just might not have it that day. A couple of days ago late in a game in Chicago the score was 0-1 with a RISP. Instead of putting in his hottest hitter to pinch hit - Lind - he put in Herrara who struck out. I have nothing against RR the man. He seemed like a decent fellow who tried but is woefully inept at managing a big league ball club. I doubt Counsel - who a lot of folks seem to think will be next - will be any better.