Tigers fan here... Verlanders ERA was increased by .50 due to the bullpen not keeping his runners from scoring. Thats not counting the times that Leyland would almost be forced to not pull Verlander due to a bad bullpen. The Tigers and Chuck Hernandez tried to change Verlander into more of a sinker baller. Im intrested in seeing what he will do with his new pitching coach. Verlander is still young and durable. I am among those who hopes hes not traded. What would it take? Probley either Jeffress or Gamel. Jeffress brings back the pitching we would be giving up and is a power pitcher like our GM likes. Gamel could start at third, with Cabrera at first longterm in Detroit. Hardy or Escobar might not work. Dombrowski has already deemed Cale Iorg as the 2010 starter at short. Alot of Tiger fans would love to see Fielder come to Detriot, due to who his dad is. While he could fit into our lineup as a DH if Sheff is released or traded, it doesnt make sense for the Tigers money wise. If your looking to deal Verlander due to his arbitration, why take back a similar but possibly more expensive situation? Id say Jeffress, plus another A or B prospect, and a filler player or two would be a good start. If not Jeffress then Gamel, but then the second player in the deal would need to be better.