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  1. tmwiese55
    So would your stance be to literally never trade? You have to give something up, the other teams aren't completely inept and it's not a video game. They traded from a spot of depth, a 101 move, and Gomez came in and was ballpark just as good anyway. Having these guys wouldn't have changed their fortunes from 2013-16ish. You'd have not made the playoffs in 11 and then been trading these guys off because the team isn't any good. Heck, Brantly might have never gotten a chance here so you would've ended up trading him later or just letting him go rather than getting CC for him
  2. tmwiese55
    Brantley and Cain would have been luxuries here with our OF depth and they were covered by getting Gomez anyway. Sure, you'd have been better off with all those guys than not. But you do have to give something up. Both big go for it moves did work. 08 if Sheets doesn't' get hurt who knows. In 2011 they made themselves the 2nd best team after Philly (who likely had a 200mil payroll) and you ended up homefield in the NLCS with a 1-0 lead. At that point they were likely the Las Vegas favorite to win the WS. It didn't work out because baseball, but they built a team that was 7 wins from a WS title and the favorite. Think of it this way, if they didn't make those go for it moves there is, in my opinion, a better than likely chance we still would not have even made the playoffs since 1982.
  3. tmwiese55
    Plush nailed it, I made a similar post yesterday. And remember the only Ps they traded away were Jeffress and Odorazi. Jeffress flopped and Odorazi has just been an ok/adequate starter. Sure I'd have taken him, but he wouldn't have made any significant difference when the team collapsed. It all came down to horrible draft/development, especially regarding pitchers. Offensive weapons here haven't been a problem, guys all over the league doing well that came from MKE.
  4. tmwiese55
    Certain part of it was just getting unlucky in 2011 that STL even made the playoffs and then were that hot. We had the better team with two better SPs and home field advantage in NLCS and WS. team building mistakes would likely be not getting a better defensive SS since our O was already so loaded. Plus maybe not going 'all-in' even more and adding another mid level SP. I don't recall what specifically was feasible at the time though. That and just simply not developing any of our SP. Which in our current iteration doesn't seem to be a problem with their strategy so far since they seem to be keen on holding all their key SP prospects. Now, the guys have to pan out.
  5. tmwiese55
    I agree. I think with Nelson coming back (hopefully good Nelson), 2019 is a good year to expect a solid playoff showing. Hader, Peralta, Burns are another year older. The only huge downside is that Braun may not contribute much. Schoop should be much better next year as well. Schoop should be better than what we've got from 2B this year. Arcia should be better than what we've got from SS. OF should roughly be the same, 3B the same. 1B should be a regression of some kind. C almost can't be worse. SP should be much better with Nelson Burnes. Relief won't be as good as it was first half but it looks like that regression is already happening now. So might be able to chalk that up to roughly the same overall.
  6. tmwiese55
    Honestly? "Oh well, nothing really lost, it was a good risk to take for almost no cost with a potentially large payout." I get that there was a risk here and these aren't going to payoff every time, but the assumed risk was the only reason he was available for so cheap. Given the cost I think it would have been a good one to roll the dice on. Obviously, so far so good for the Phillies. Right, just like I said if it's money they sure why not, it's not my money. But, if the guys never played then the negative folks would be saying how dumb it was to pin our catching hopes and team improvement from this guy instead of doing something else.
  7. tmwiese55
    This is the stuff that’s interesting to me? When in your opinion long suffering fan is the time to strike? The same arguments were made on this board ten+ years ago when the Braun-Fielder-Weeks-Hart group was coming up, and that core of players ultimately won less than 20 more games than they lost before the core broke up. If this isn’t the “contending” Brewers team, where are the pieces coming from to put them over the top? All the pitching that is less than two years off is already here. To project players like Lutz and Turang as contributors is so speculative. In fact take a look at the archived Power 50s on this very site and look the top prospects featured there that didn’t amount to a thing: Mat Gamel, Taylor Green, Logan Schafer, Caleb Gindl, Brad Nelson etc. What you see now is what they got. Is it good enough to make the wild card, we’ll see. It is so hard to win in baseball compared to the other pro sports leagues, as a fan it is annoying when your team has a golden opportunity and screws it up 3 out of the last 5 years. The pieces coming to improve the pitching would be Nelson and Burnes plus the wild card of what to do with Hader. For some reason they seem down on Woodruff but he seems like he has a good chance to me. Starting rotation could be completely different and way better just next year without having to rely on the likes of Suter, Miley, Wilkerson, maybe even Davies soft tossing types.
  8. tmwiese55
    Wow some argument here. I think it's as simple as the guy was on the DL with a hamstring, one of the most common injuries to linger and this is a guy that has to crouch 125 times a game. Don't get me wrong, for just cash sure why not? But what would the second guessers be saying if the move was to trade for a guy on the DL for sure to miss two weeks and possibly more and the guy ended up not even playing.
  9. tmwiese55
    Isn't it amazing we are trying to be like are hated rivals? Haha. Glad to see Bud Norris blow a game the other day. Well they've been one of the most consistent winning teams in the league for a long time. And while they have more money than us, they're not reliant on big spending like the other consistent winning teams of Bos, NYY, LAD, SF and the recent rebuilds of CHC/Hou who have massive financial flexibility so can do things differently.
  10. tmwiese55
    We're trying to be STL as much as possible. That model fits us way better as a small market.
  11. tmwiese55
    Yea I'm not trying to make Anderson out for more than he is. But even with his regression this year that we all figured was coming he's been generally fine, below 4 era all year pretty much. Contract is only through next year. I'm just saying he did get something of legit value back
  12. tmwiese55
    He did get a quality mid rotation pitcher back from Segura at least. Of course, he's not perfect. Every mistake as listed above can be countered by good moves he clearly came out ahead on. That's the nature of the job, no one is going to shoot 100%. Simple way to look at it though is that him shooting a higher percent than expected or normal led to a quicker rebuild than expected which led to Cain/Yelich. Does that mean he'll nail everything from here out, who knows. But I think the plan is somewhat clear to me. His main core controlled here for a while is .500 to a bit better. Try to hit moves around them to win it while not giving up the elite or at least higher end prospects, especially pitchers, he truly believes in that will continue to keep the team competitive for years. Of course he could end up wrong on prospects he has traded, but it's my take that those are guys he had little confidence in feels like he sold high on them. I guess I'm skewed a bit as I was one very low on Brinson. I know this comes off as super supportive of Stearns, but I'll not the Schoop trade I'm skeptical on what they gave up and the fit. I think the guys he traded away were the ones he planned to trade at this deadline the whole time, other better stuff all didn't work out so he took what he could get. hopefully Schoop rebounds to help this year or at least next year.
  13. tmwiese55
    If folks don't think the Brewers have been pulling trash heap players and no names players until Stearns they've been watching an entirely different team than me the last 25 years. Of course Stearns hasn't been perfect and missed on some moves, but for the most part his eye has been very sharp as evidenced by a team of nobodies massively overachieving this year. Add in that he was smart enough to know that was fluky so he added two legit top tier players in Cain/Yelich I just don't see how we do not trust this guy at this point to keep this team competing for the next 5 years at least Again, I think this is exactly their plan. A consistently above .500 team for several years and hope to get lucky and or pick their spots to 'go for it'. Some years you're going to come up a bit short which might happen this year.
  14. tmwiese55
    If they don't make it I wouldn't expect something drastic in the offseason. Generally I think their plan is to try and be a contender for a long stretch and hopefully get lucky and get a title at some point, in a way the Cardinals model where you're always a good quality team and then hope to get lucky at the right time. I think they'll look at adding Nelson and Burnes into the rotation as the 'upgrades' needed to help the rotation next year. And also will consider it with Hader. In their head they already addressed the 2B hole next year by getting Schoop with Keston ready the next year. So all they'd have to look at is C. ETA: I know someone else said it earlier but I agree it wasn't the trades that caused the poor team for a few years. It was completely inept drafting/development. 08 they lost Brantley who took several years to develop and would've been blocked here. Greinke they lost Cain of course, but we had Braun/Hart and soon found Gomez to replace Cain anyway. So while he was great, it's not like we weren't very strong in OF. Lost Escobar, who was just blah anyway and was replaced by Segura a year later who was mediocre for us. Odorazi has been a competent SP but by no means anything that would've changed our fortunes. Lawri flopped. That's really it.
  15. tmwiese55
    Pretty sure Nottingham ins on the DL right now, but correct if wrong. Get ready for a Bandy/Kratz platoon!! For the trades not moving the needle, the offense has not been the problem in this stretch of mediocrity, especially when compared to before the trades. I'm not gonna do the math but the runs per game has to be significantly better. The bullpen falling apart and the starters continuing to just be mediocre is the problem.
  16. tmwiese55
    Thanks for that random rule thing. Kratz another well hit ball there, he's surprisingly been doing well of late after that brutal spell And to what seabass just said, Schoop hit that ball very well. Under it a bit and it's gone. A few more feet to the right and it's in the gap due to a terrible defender in LF.
  17. tmwiese55
    Hader should probably get the 8th no matter what just to get an inning in
  18. tmwiese55
    With the off day coming yea I get it. But there's still at least two innings after this, if you were to continue the comeback you'd need guys for those innings and potentially extras. Which obviously you'd like Hader/Jeffress for that
  19. tmwiese55
    darn, at least he hit it well. a few feet to the right and that's a tie game
  20. tmwiese55
    The way that ump was calling that would've been a ball too. High heater he couldn't do much with, probably just let that go and see what happens next pitch. In his head he probably though great chance for a fly ball to get the run.
  21. tmwiese55
    Random stat question irrelevant to this that someone just asked me but I figured the experts here would know quickly. Thanks for any help. Say a relief pitcher comes in with a runner on 1st, obviously that runner is responsible to the guy leaving the game. Now, next guy grounds into a fielders choice that gets teh guy going out to 2nd but next the hitter is safe at 1st. Who's responsible for that runner now? I would guess it's still the previous pitchers but really not sure.
  22. tmwiese55
    Darn, hard hit ball for an out while they go so much of bloops and blah grounders. If that goes through this gets pretty interesting
  23. tmwiese55
    https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/mp4/2018/08/15/2388034183/1534362565244/asset_2500K.mp4 Safe. Are you serious? Conveniently WGN didn't show the one angle that showed the glove directly on his shoulder a half step before he touches the base. The last one on your clip showed kind of had it, Brewers broadcast had it clear as day
  24. tmwiese55
    It wasn't even just a glance of the jersey. Glove to shoulder, clear as day
  25. tmwiese55
    a few grounders he was a step or two away from, so kind of bad luck. A few pop ups to the OF that fall just in front of the OF. They're a few feet away from this game still being close. That's baseball though
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