I think managers have a huge effect, but when we pool them all together I don't think their performance is that big of a difference. There are possibly a couple incredible ones and possibly a few really bad ones, but I think most are pretty comparable. Counsell is nothing special and is really neutral across the board...though that may not be the worst thing to have. I don't know what Stearns plans to do with him. I personally think he will appoint his own guy and the only reason Counsell is still here is because he just started and who cares during a rebuild. Maybe Stearns has an open mind and Counsell is still managing for a job.