I wouldn't completely discount guys currently at AA like Wagner, Brooks Hall, or Hobbs Johnson from debuting at some point this year and lets not forget Hiram Burgos, who's currently at Brevard, but who's got major league experience and could come around. Hey when the wheels come off like they have this year, teams go through a lot of pitchers. I can't see any way the pitchers you just listed get a shot at a starting gig. Thornburg, Crazy, and Jungman are all waaaay in front on the depth chart.