TJseven7

That’s 90% of the forum this year. Rough, I guess a few just get under my skin. I've gotten stomped on for being reserved about Rasmussen since his promotion to AA started and I didn't even go back to it after last nights rough go. I try my best to go with reality and then when it happens I don't need to told you so. Screwed up bad on Alex Cobb a couple years ago. I was obsessed with getting him.

He's been amazing the last 30 games but its the same dog.

You know me... reality seeker

You think you're right about what? Pinning everything you can to Chacin because you don't like him and want to embellish yourself into being right. You want to blame people you spit on. That is being right? Ignoring something that is blatantly obvious so you can kick a dog when he's down because you TOLD US SO??? What kind of garbage is that?

Give me a break dude. You pick your favorites and your dislikes and then you just pander results to try to explain yourself right. I'm stunned more people aren't livid about you talking nothing but back patting nonsense.

264 earned runs by brewers pitching 21 by peralta starting in 26 innings 36 by burnes 12 Barnes, 12 Wilson aren't on the team. 8.54 era from those guys 3.75 from everyone else (including Peralta in the pen) I see the problem. It's not more pitching.

You really need to stop altering reality to hype your takes. It's annoying. I'm aware that that's your go to response when you are asked to be logical or accurate. That or just run from it.

Well that's 2 BBs for us tonight that were on the ump. Thames lead to 1 run. Cain just K'ed looking.

You really need to stop altering reality to hype your takes. It's annoying.

In general I'm not. He's got a 3.00 ERA through 30 IP. He's been good. If he was doing better he'd be in pretty impressive company.

Better than walking in multiple runs. At least they earned it. Yeah middle middle FBs should be every pitch. Works for Burnes.

Right down the middle FB Guerra. No harm in walking him. Grooves a FB down the middle.

Well this pitcher doesn't have his slider going. The bottom of the order is sitting on his change up and he keeps throwing them change ups that you can hit. And every hit is finding a gap or grass Very frustrating.

Bob McGinn is Bob McGinn. I follow the whole league without needed to be fed by sources. Well GBs avoidance of modern era defensive football has been a thorn in my side for years. The Burnett hybrid LB thing, was 3 years behind Sutton in KC. Our Ss have made me age faster. Amos and Savage is finally getting into the new age. Martinez and the buck position is the last piece. It bothers me when people go, no its fine, its above average. No its what stops this team from having a good defense. S and LB, and now 1 is solved. I get it, I'm nuts. I'm aware.

Now granted, Martinez athletically or play style doesn’t jump off page Now I will say I agree he isn’t elite at taking on & beating blocks He just isn’t explosive or strong enough to be the imposing LB That's exactly the point though. That makes him just a guy. You are literally describing Ben Gedeon of the Vikings and no one hypes that guy. Absolutely no one. He’s just a natural Mike vs Sam backer Which is a dying position in the NFL. They don't play guys like that 2 downs anymore. That's not valuable and there are lots of NFL LBs who can do that role. He is highly intelligent which to me is arguably one of most important qualities for a linebacker as it has ability to mask many other flaws they may have When you can read what the play is & react correctly at the snap of ball you are at huge advantage That's not enough on the NFL level. You have to be a whale of an athlete to be in the NFL and not be football smart. Everyone executes in the NFL, being highly intelligent just prevents you from losing more ground. It doesn't gain it back or overcome anything. Instincts are so crucial for the position. He doesn't have great instincts. Being smart and playing with instincts is a different trait. Tremaine Edmunds is extremely smart, is from a football family and has been a film rat since HS. He still lacks instincts. Blake does too. Pff had Martinez ranked 17th amongst linebackers in 2018 & top in NFC North (not saying too much however, North doesn’t have very many great ones) Um, Smith Trevathan and Kendricks are really good. Gedeon is a carbon copy of Martinez. Kennard is actually quite similar as well. That leaves Anthony Barr who isn't a LB. Jarrad Davis who is struggling badly. Christian Jones and our 2nd LB shouldn't be starting, and Jones is getting benched. There are 9 LBs in the division who play a position that compares to Blake. 3 are better. 2 more are neck and neck. Tied for 4th-6th in our division alone. You'd probably really like Jahlani Tavai too. I think he's your type of guy. Very good hands, tough, smart, captain, high motor, range is a limited but he looks more complete than Blake in the early down role. That could push Martinez to 5-7th tie in a possible 9. he is in no way a liability to this team & is a big part of our future success The fact that he's on the field 100% of snaps is actually quite a big liability. If they pay him they are making a big mistake as there are many cheap players who could provide the exact same impact. Problem is Packers don’t and haven’t had another linebacker to complement his skill set. Absolutely. When Clay was the rangy, high level instinctive, play-maker weapon at buck who didn't come off the field, the mike only had to be just a guy. It was Hawk. Case in point. The problem is that one of the two has to be a dynamic player or the defense can't cover the ground they need to cover. We've put a replacement level meat and potatoes mike on the field 100% of the time which puts him in assignments he's not capable of handling, next to a guy who is worse. If he played 50% of snaps instead of the demand he's placed in he would do a fine job in those 50% of snaps and there are a wealth of LBs who would. Morrison Toomer and Burks were all poor last year. They combined to play about 425 snaps. If that was Blake, he wouldn't be a liability. 100% Blake is because Martinez is just a guy. A dependable, accountable, smart, but HIGHLY limited guy who fits a small role well and a big role poorly. If GB took Leighton Vander Esch over Jaire Alexander last year, Martinez would play 50% of snaps and watching LVE vs Martinez is watching players on different planets. A guy isn't above average when you say, his problem is that he needs the other guy to compliment him and take him off the field in situations where he struggles. Yeah, this defense needs a batman. Blake's an acceptable Robin. Ben Gedeon, AJ Klien, (from my HS) Blake Martinez 1 in the same. I truly wouldn't be concerned if Blake was lost for the season and they signed back Morrison. It wouldn't change much.

Off a blurb on Horst for what its worth. “If you asked me what would be a fair deal for him (Horst), I’d say around $3 million (a year),’’ an NBA executive said. “That’s about the average salary for a GM and I think he’s regarded as an average GM. Nothing to see here. While Horst was elated with becoming the Bucks GM, he rankled many front office executives and their agents. Horst agreed to a paltry annual salary of $500,000, according to several NBA officials. One person who knows Horst claimed he wasn’t even paid that much. “That was insulting to every GM in our league,’’ an NBA executive said earlier this week. “It was the lowest salary for a GM in our league – by far. The next lowest (GM) was paid $1 million.’’

Chacin is pitching like garbage in his walk year. If Nelson comes up, Chacin is the prime candidate to go to the pen. Burnes or Peralta (maybe both when Shaw comes back) go down. Unlike Burnes, Peralta has actually been a godsend out of the pen. 12.1IP 2.19 ERA 12h 3bb 13k in 4 outings. I'd prefer him to stay a 2-3IP reliever. The era has gone from 8.31 to 5.68 in his last 5 outings and 1 of the 5 was a 4IP start. No one here wants 4IP starts. I like the look of Peralta Hader shortening games to 5 innings in the playoffs.

Let me put this in the more appropriate thread too... "Agree, starting he was a disaster, but of 10 relief appearances he’s only had one bad outing, albeit really bad, the rest good. Maybe the crew believes, as I do, that sending him to to AAA again not needed and the brewers, like I, think he can help the pen big time moving forward." 4 appearances allowing 7 3 3 2 in 5 ip is pretty rough. 7 good outings 10IP at a 0.00 ERA 4 bad outings 5IP at a 27.00 ERA 63% good outings When do you go to him? And lets compare... 12 good outings 12IP at a 0.00 ERA 4 bad outings 3.2IP at 29.45 ERA 75% good outings Burnes has been very similar to Barnes this year in the pen. Sending him down was pretty unanimous. This is not to say anything bad about Burnes. At 24 after flying up the system a lot of us expected great things from Woodruff. 2 years later that's looking like its coming to fruition. After 8 starts at 4.81 ERA at 24. Burnes could need the same thing. Got his majors taste at 24, back to AAA for the year. Next year show up in the 2nd half mostly out of the pen. 2021 the road could be less bumpy. I'm good with a delayed if that nets quality 5 years of control. He has to fix his FB control. He has to trust and control his full starters profile of pitches. He's too young.

4 appearances allowing 7 3 3 2 in 5 ip is pretty rough though. 7 good outings 10IP at a 0.00 ERA 4 bad outings 5IP at a 27.00 ERA 63% good outings When do you go to him? And lets compare... 12 good outings 12IP at a 0.00 ERA 4 bad outings 3.2IP at 29.45 ERA 75% good outings Burnes has been very similar to Barnes this year. Sending him down was pretty unanimous. This is not to say anything bad about Burnes. At 24 after flying up the system a lot of us expected great things from Woodruff. 2 years later that's looking like its coming to fruition. After 8 starts at 4.81 ERA at 24. Burnes could need the same thing. Got his majors taste at 24, back to AAA for the year. Next year show up in the 2nd half mostly out of the pen. 2021 the road could be less bumpy. I'm good with a delayed if that nets quality 5 years of control.

He has a mutual option in 2020 so they truly have a 1 year deal.

I keep forgetting how young he is. His early season left me throwing up my hands and giving up on him. I still lean towards Segovia.

A way could be him getting a Guerra role.

All the more reason to make Shaw the new Thames and make it a stricter platoon. When Shaw is back to being himself of course. Games 1-43... 4.72 Games 44-58...5.66 Lots of factors go into that but taking a 570 OPS out of the lineup for an 880 is a part of it.

Even with the cooler market the last two years at 5.5 and 10 mil, I wouldn't pause in offering him 2yr 26 mil right now to keep him here for the next 2 years. Even if the markets cool on him again, he's earned it and when you look at Thames at 7.5 (1mil buyout) vs 13 mil for Moose. Moose is a clearly better price. I've seen a lot of talk about how we need to respect Shaw by putting him back in the lineup with this IL activation. Respect Moose, is it the BEST value, who cares. He's earned a better deal than he signed this offseason. He's earned more than he got paid the last 2 years. Respect the guy who is now one of your guys and pay him even if it might end up a bit of an overpay. 10 mil 13 mil not a big deal. 2yr/26 and lock 3B down. Let Shaw rebound to the new and improved Thames eventually.

Yeah....