Ron Robinsons Beard

Disagree. Next to Machado, he was one of the top bars available that year. Name recognition, as much as you seem to want to believe it, does not equal success.

Mancini career OPS: .815 Aguilar career OPS: .803 Both have a career OBP of .334. Both have an OPS of .793 this season. Mancini's career K rate is 23%, Aguilar 23.7%. Both so far appear to have had one year outliers - Aguilar in 2018, Mancini in 2019. Both are under control for one more year. Mancini is making $4.75M this year, Aguilar $4.3M. Mancini better not cost a lot more in prospects than Aguilar. I'm not paying for the past I'm paying for the future, specifically the next 3 months if you think their production will be the same going forward we'll agree to disagree. The biggest thing that worries be about Aguilar is his trend of being very average at best in the second half of seasons.

I know the guy is a Hall of Fame grudge holder, but that is next-level stuff that would likely make whatever team looking to acquire him think twice I would think/hope.

"Big" in this case is very much in the eye of the beholder. Grabbing a well-known guy, as you are obviously advocating, is definitely not the only key to a successful trade season. As Stearns says, sometimes those under-the-radar moves are the ones that make the most difference. Move such as Pomeranz and Jordan Lyles in the past. Moves that were both panned pretty viciously here, but turned out to be extraordinary. I mean, and it's no offense to anyone here, but a lot of this board are huge analytics nerds. There's nothing wrong with that. But, when it comes to trades, you don't have to know analytics to know that the better of a player(more talented) you acquire, the more likely you are to get better production. Again, there are no guarantees with anything, but for example(and it's JUST an example people), if Team A acquires Vlad Guerrero jr for the stretch run, and team B acquires Eric Sogard, which team is more likely to get better production down the stretch? Now granted, it may not necessarily end up that way, but don't you always want to tilt the odds in your favor as much as possible?? Simple logic. Simple logic was trading for a big bat in Jonathan Schoop a few years back, analytics be damned. Sometimes acquiring the "big name bat" doesn't work.

"Big" in this case is very much in the eye of the beholder. Grabbing a well-known guy, as you are obviously advocating, is definitely not the only key to a successful trade season. As Stearns says, sometimes those under-the-radar moves are the ones that make the most difference. Move such as Pomeranz and Jordan Lyles in the past. Moves that were both panned pretty viciously here, but turned out to be extraordinary.

Why not Urias? He's not going to be a starting middle infielder before 2023 with Adames and Wong on the roster and maybe not even then depending on Wong's club option. Then the Brewers have Turang at SS in AA, he should be ready by 2023. They also just used a first round pick on Tyler Black, who is coming to pro-ball as an advanced hitter from college. He should also be knocking on the door at some point in 2023 as well. Urias is passable as a 3B in the vein of Gio Urshela or Jeimer Candelario, but most of the perennial contenders have a third basemen who brings more power to the table: Arenado, Bryant, Devers, Turner, Donaldson, Bregman, Rendon, Machado, Jose Ramirez, etc., meaning the Brewers probably don't view him as a long term answer at 3B. With four years of team control remaining, and a nice season under his belt he probably brings back the most talent for Milwaukee, and certainly more than Turang would. I would not trade Urias. I believe he is blossoming, will be more impact hitter as he ages on through his prime. Things are beginning to click for him and add more confidence he and Adames will be a fantastic pair in top of lineup. Ditto. Dude is 24, and is just starting to mash. Giving him up now because he doesn't "fit the mold of other 3B" would be a terrible oversight IMO.

Really looking like 2021 might be a "one last ride" year. Then it's rebuild time, and hope that Jordan Love is the real deal. That's the way it is with the modern NFL. Dynasties are a thing of the past.

Sure ... but I think your idea of "swinging for the fences" and others' are probably different. Is grabbing another proven late inning reliever it? Does the bat that they acquire have to be a "name" guy like Rizzo or Bryant? Gallo? Mancini? Would Aguiar suffice? Also, without the ability to trade future draft picks, comparing the Brewers to the Bucks is like comparing apples and oranges.

Aguilar's propensity to be bad/terrible in the 2nd half of seasons scares the hell out of me. Last thing I want to do is give up a big package for a player who is not going to be any improvement on what Hiura is doing.

The "next championship" thread and the "optimism" thread rolled into one. I dig it!

Suter hadn't given up an earned run since July 7, giving him four straight scoreless appearances. I have no doubts that Counsell is awake

Gross ... just gross

Atta boy Rowdy. Good AB there.

Right ... pretty depressing to watch right now. After swinging the bats so well in Cincinnati too.

So different than the "You guys can go ahead and lose this one" gameplan from yesterday?

Obviously early, but the Brewers sure did make Brad Keller (thee of the nearly 6 ERA) look great in the first inning.

Giannis was just on Instagram Live at the Chik-Fil-A drive-through in Milwaukee ordering a 50-piece nugget meal. The MVP trophy was on his lap, and the Championship trophy was between his legs on the floorboard. Last night he tucked the trophies into bed next to his fiance. Before that they were sitting on his kitchen counter, next to his younger brother, Alex, who was casually eating a frozen TV-style dinner. That is both the most relatable and quite possibly the least relatable pro athlete actions after winning a championship of all time.

I would venture to guess that the vast majority of those willing to bow down to Rodgers' every demand are more of the casual variety that likely didn't care about the Bucks until they beat the Nets a few weeks ago. The more hardcore fans, I believe, are more fans of the teams rather than individual players. I personally believe that Aaron Rodgers' presence makes the Packers a strong contender this year. But if the Jordan Love era begins this season, it isn't going to make me any less of a Packer fan. This is still a very talented squad that should still be competitive regardless of who is starting at QB. I don't understand those who are saying this is a 4-win team without Rodgers. There is a ton of talent on this team, Rodgers or no Rodgers.

One inch. That was all that was standing in the way of the Bucks being eliminated, Bud being fired, and a likely soft rebuild. Instead look for them to enjoy this, and run back a very similar looking squad next year as the presumed favorites. Crazy game. Not sure why the Bucks would be the presumed favorites. I’m guessing that will be the Nets, for good reason. Will the Bucks even be a Top 3 favorite after all the dominos fall in the off season? Guessing LeBrons team will get a bunch of hype, per usual. I’m not taking anything away from this run, it was well deserved and they played great teams to hoist the trophy. BUT they don’t even make the conference finals if the Nets aren’t severely crippled. I mean they needed every ounce of fight and a big toe to survive that. The Suns took six games to eliminate the Leonard-less to make the finals. How would we have faired against the Clippers with Leonard taking the floor? My point is, those odds/perceived favorites will be determined imagining the sky is bright and injuries are washed away. Going into the season it will be back to imagining a healthy Big 3 and the return of LeBron. I’m glad Giannis and the Bucks were able to win it this year. With the NBA the way it is, who knows if we ever get such an opportunity again. It’s just not easy for a team like the Bucks. Dang ... Debbie Downer I say the Bucks are the presumed favorites because they just won it all, and assuming they will be bringing back a similar core. Yes, other teams had issues. So did the Bucks. They eliminated a very tough Hawks team in two games without Giannis. The top teams will have issues they need to overcome next year as well. Yes, the super teams are going to get the preseason hype like they always do. But the Bucks will be right up there with them.

But this team isn't here if Giannis's supporting cast doesn't step up in those last two against a good Hawks team to send them to the finals. Winning two big games without the MVP is a very underrated storyline of this playoff run.

One inch. That was all that was standing in the way of the Bucks being eliminated, Bud being fired, and a likely soft rebuild. Instead look for them to enjoy this, and run back a very similar looking squad next year as the presumed favorites. Crazy game.

If Bogdanovic had come here, Portis wouldn't have. I'm good with the way it went down.

Yeah, I thought about that. But it wasn't like he did a whole lot (except maybe make Giannis happy). Glue guy. His teammates love him.

Giannis cemented his legacy tonight. He's 26.

Or not