Depends on what you mean by talent. I think that translates to velocity for me. I'm not entirely sure Woodruff doesn't miss a few spots a game as well. The difference is he has the stuff to get away with it. I know you don't throw hard to be a successful starting pitcher but it sure seems most top shelf starting pitchers throw hard, or at least did at some point. I'm probably not explaining my stance well here but there it is. No, I think you you explained it well. It is very difficult for a non gas thrower to become an ace-type pitcher. The ceiling just isn't typically there. A guy who throws in the upper 90s, but can also mix in solid secondary stuff just has that much more going for him, plus with his heat he can get away with not having terrific command every time out.