I guess I was saying that it likely won't matter who takes the #5 spot, because between Miley, Gallardo and Guerra, they are likely to give you similar production, i.e. a 5-something ERA and starts that last 5 innings, putting more pressure on the pen. I guess I didn't word it very well. I hope that if they don't sign anyone, Woodruff would be the #5 pick, as at least he stands a chance of improving, and theoretically has the ability to pitch late into games and not get shelled. But it appears that since he has options, he'll be a AAA depth piece yet again. If we go into the season with Miley in the rotation, while knowing we could have signed Cobb or Arrieta to a fair contract, and we end up out of the playoffs by a game or two at the end of the year because Miley pitches like Wade Miley, it's going to be a bummer. I'm usually an eternal optimist, and even I don't see a guy like Miley being useful.