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Really? The owners do nothing? What do they truly, actually do besides make money? That is what they own teams for. What do baseball owners contribute to make the sport better in any way?

I may be missing the boat, but are the Brewers part of this "collusion?" It seems like they are willing to increase the salary of their club for their players from $63M (http://www.stevetheump.com/Payrolls.htm) to possibly around $87M (https://www.brewcrewball.com/2018/1/30/16943418/milwaukee-brewers-2018-payroll-projection-update-3). That is a 37.5% increase! I'm guessing the players are complaining more about the big market teams. Let me guess... the owners should take a loss or break even? I suppose Arte Moreno shouldn't make more than Albert Pujols, right? What's a cool $25M a year amongst friends? I didn't realize how little minor league players make. Isn't it something like $12K/year? I don't think they should be making $100K, but $12K? I'm sure the players union doesn't give a rat's back side about them. I work in a struggling business that due to many circumstances, is forcing some of the ownership to not take a paycheck. I have also not taken a paycheck at times. Neither side -- especially the players -- have any sympathy from me. I certainly won't cry over this as I'm working extra hours this weekend to keep the company going. Perspective... You not taking a paycheck "to keep the company going", or working extra hours "to keep the company going" is your prerogative, and frankly really stupid. If your boss can't afford to pay you they shouldn't own a business. Period. Everyone else in the world shouldn't be expected to be ok with their labor being exploited just because you seem to enjoy it. The players are workers, just like you. They make more because the profits in their industry are higher than yours. Why do you hate the players more than the owners? Does everyone here worship at the feet of their boss or something? I watch baseball to see incredible athletes do incredible things, not to root for the owners pinching pennies to inflate their massive portfolios of wealth.

Massive profits to the owners, players not getting their fare share... the players will go on strike in the next year or two and somehow the average joe MLB fan will side with the billionaire owners who do nothing for the sport itself.

Exactly. All MLB owners could spend way more on payroll, but they don't because rich guys really, really like to continue accumulating vast wealth, and they especially hate having to pay the labor (players) that creates all of their wealth. They may say publicly that they "really want to win", and I don't doubt that some truly do, but for every single one of them, the #1 priority is easy capital accumulation. Get taxpayers to fund your stadiums, charge them an arm and a leg for admission with "demand based pricing", concessions, & merch, say all the right things about how you care about winning so much, and then just watch the cash flow in. Anyways, back on topic, I really hope Yu signs with the Crew.

What does this even mean? Personal fortune? The team's revenue is part of his personal fortune so of course he's using that to fund the team. The fact of the matter is, the Brewers could have a $200 million payroll and Mark would still be profiting quite a bit. Owning a baseball franchise is insanely lucrative and doesn't require much effort. All you need is a ton of money that you'd never be able to spend in a lifetime anyways. I want to see a quality product on the field, I do not care about some billionaire's pocket book, and I'll never understand the desire of regular working folks to defend the wealth of the super-rich.

Of course they want money. You like being paid for your labor too I assume? As it stands now, free agency is the one chance a player has to actually receive what they are worth and deserve, since the years of team control and arb years suppresses their wages in their prime years and ownership reaps huge profits off of their labor in that time. And this is just the Major League portion of their career, most players grind away in the minors for years making next to nothing. Don’t blame players for wanting the money they rightly deserve just because the system is set up to prevent them from receiving that money until the downslope of their career (generally). You're missing the point completely. It's not about judging the players, it's about wanting your team to make smart decisions. I really hope the Cubs outbid the Brewers by $5 and Yu takes it because that will only help the Brewers in the long run, and it won't even take as long as you think. Well, I completely disagree that your rival adding a great player to their roster is somehow good for your team. I want to watch great players on my team. This concern over millions of dollars that aren’t yours is so asinine from a fan perspective. All of these owners can afford to pay their players, you don’t have to cape for ownership by hoping they somehow can pay great players less than they’re worth to increase their profit margin.

Of course they want money. You like being paid for your labor too I assume? As it stands now, free agency is the one chance a player has to actually receive what they are worth and deserve, since the years of team control and arb years suppresses their wages in their prime years and ownership reaps huge profits off of their labor in that time. And this is just the Major League portion of their career, most players grind away in the minors for years making next to nothing. Don’t blame players for wanting the money they rightly deserve just because the system is set up to prevent them from receiving that money until the downslope of their career (generally).

I wonder what kind of prospects we could get if we take some Sandoval's money off the books and give them Santana. Would they give up Groome and Chavis? This would give us another arm and some insurance in case Shaw regresses or gets traded for an arm during the "window". Wasn’t Sandoval back on the Giants last year?

Pretty much exactly how I’m feeling about this.

https://www.si.com/mlb/2017/09/20/pat-neshek-zack-greinke-autograph-rockies-diamondbacks-turd Social anxiety is definitely no laughing matter but things like this rub me the wrong way. Its a peer and you're seemingly douchey for the sake of being douchey here. Pat Neshek comes across as the real ******* in this situation.

Absolutely not. Why would we trade the pure hitting OF entering his prime with 5 years of control that we literally just acquired?

Good people? Why is Cap Anson in there then? Sosa, McGwire and all the steroid guys essentially saved baseball and made A TON of money for owners and the league itself. They should be in. Keep the awful racists like Schilling out, but Bonds absolutely should be in the HOF. Making a ton of money for owners is not the criteria which is used to determine Hall of Fame worthiness. Where did I say it was? The players I'm talking about absolutely put up HOF numbers, and should be treated with far more respect by MLB when the league got absurdly rich off their backs and fan interest increased tremendously at a time when the future of baseball was in question.

Good people? Why is Cap Anson in there then? Sosa, McGwire and all the steroid guys essentially saved baseball and made A TON of money for owners and the league itself. They should be in. Keep the awful racists like Schilling out, but Bonds absolutely should be in the HOF.

Mark A's pocketbook is going to be juuuust fine regardless. He (and every MLB owner) are making ridiculous profits, so this idea that we're going to be hamstrung by a 5 year $80 million contract is just laughable and anti-labor/pro ownership.

Paraphrasing here - Reporter: "Lorenzo, what do you remember about Craig when you were a rookie?" Lorenzo: "Old... quiet" haha

My thoughts exactly.

...then later, pitched a fit when she found out how much Walberg made for the same thing... I mean, rightfully so in my opinion.

I really enjoyed Darryl Hamilton on the broadcasts when he was doing them for a bit in 2014. Knowledgeable and a great sense of humor. Thought he would've been a perfect replacement for Ueck some day. Man it's such a shame he's no longer with us

I want to hang on to our prospects. I would've been shopping Knebel, Santana, Shaw, Pina, Anderson, maybe Davies etc. the second out 27 was made in game 162. Braun would've been shipped out last offseason for the best offer I got from a team not on his no-trade list before his 10/5 rights kicked in. I would've done a complete scorched earth rebuild. Lose 100 for multiple years, get those top 1-3 draft picks, get all the bonus pool money to use in the later rounds. Every decent major leaguer traded for the best value I can get. I understand a lot of people don't want to build that way but that's exactly what I wanted to do and I see no value in trying to get a bunch of 2-3 WAR major league players in trades. Those are the players you get after you have an established young core that's capable of providing the 5-7 WAR seasons. So then what happens when the next group of players overachieves in a few years and the team is on the cusp of a playoff spot? Scorched earth again? I mean, when do you decide that you have the foundation of a contender? With the philosophy you propose, you are basically serving as a perpetual farm system for other MLB teams. Agreed with this^ Serving as a perpetual farm system for the rest of the league and essentially just being a profit machine for the owner.

Yelich would be a huge upgrade over Santana imo, who may have just had his career year. His strikeout rate is troubling and he's a bit of a defensive liability, couldn't hurt to move him for pitching if you can upgrade to a pure hitter like Yelich first.

I think Cleveland is already so LH dominant in their lineup that Yelich wouldn't be the greatest fit for what they're looking for. Santana would be lower prospect cost and they're really looking for RH bats.