Well the Aguilar trade is brought up because that's how we got Faria. Santana was an example of a good trade at a bad time. The Villar trade made us worse short term and long, as did the Davis trade. The Grisham/Davies trade was a short term disaster, well see how it shakes out long term. My initial statement wasn't just what you quoted by the way, you left off a few words so you could have an easier argument. I'm not going to rehash every trade and every guy he's cut loose for nothing (even though they had value the previous year, or immediately provided value to someone else, but it's pretty clear he's made a lot of what turned out to be bad moves. He's made lots of good ones as well, and we're still technically in the race this year, but it's silly to pretend everything he touches turns to gold. Regarding the bolded. Really? You are going to make definitive statements about how “it’s pretty clear he’s made a lot of what turned out to be bad moves” but refuse to actually go into detail about those moves? If there are so many as you say, it should be pretty easy to come up with something to back up your statement.