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True Blue Brew Crew replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
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Worried about an amount Yelich makes now, but 9-10 years from now? If Chourio is what the Brewers think he is, they'll giggle while writing those checks in the years 2033 and 2034
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Thanks @brewerfan82 and @sveumrules Looks like Jackson will only be around the 9th-11th highest paid player on the team in 2024
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Do we have a breakdown of the contract? I was only factoring the guaranteed portion which is 8/80. If it's paid out annually at $10 million per year, he would indeed be the Brewers current 2nd highest paid player pending arbitration for players like Burnes and Adames who may or may not be traded. The only player on the books for the Brewers above $10 million annually is Yelich at $22M. So yeah, aside from some really backloaded structure, which would be odd for Chourio to accept, he's set to be the 2nd highest player on the team right now. Burnes and Adames are projected to surpass 10M if they're retained. But even then Chourio would be 4th.
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It makes him exponentially more likely to be on the OD roster. Who are we kidding here? He's currently their 2nd highest paid player and there's also the potential draft pick compensation for the ROTY award he'll be one of the top NL favorites for. Without the deal he'd be a top 5 bat in MLB camp, and that's being conservative. But the team of course would have manipulated service time and kept him down. But with this deal signed and guaranteed there's no reason not to bring him to Milwaukee as one of the team's best hitters.
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For those who are (strangely) against this, if not now, and for this player, then when?
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I'll guess 9 years, $125 million
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Curious, is it just me or does it seem as though there really wasn't much of an exhaustive search or interview process to this? Heard some rumored names, but didn't hear much about formal interviews. Filling the spot just seemed somewhat unimportant and an afterthought.
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Cheap stopgap hire ☑️
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Here it is... https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2023/11/07/mark-attanasio-says-brewers-coaching-staff-will-all-be-back-in-2024/71487631007/
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I thought I read that Murphy was the only one who wasn't re-upped? Still a candidate for the top job but not under contract, thus affording him the opportunity to tag along with Counsell or go wherever he pleases. Before everyone goes assuming it's Murphy's job, maybe some additional digging is warranted. I get the sense he's leaving for Chicago if he doesn't get the top job in Milwaukee. Don't think he's going to be some new hire's bench coach, even if it's internal.
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This team's emphasis on the glove has served them well and has presented itself over and over in tight games. Removing Turang's defense from a close game only half played, as well as him being better at making contact than BOTH Perkins and Caratini is more than enough logic to understand why CC made that choice. Overall, the general idea of pining for Caratini or Perkins is just a little too comical for me to go any further than that.
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This screams temporary patch. Why wouldn't they be on the hunt for the best long term candidate they can find? And that would mean giving the right person the ability to bring in people they know and trust. That's off the table now which means they're thinking short term. Short term could be let's see how one of our in-house candidates fares at the helm, maybe we have our long term answer right here -OR- it could mean let's bandaid this thing while I get that other thing done. But it's undeniable that saddling any potential candidate with a staff chosen for them means not opening the process up far and wide. It's definitely limiting and not what you'd expect from someone thinking long term.
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Hiring someone under the pretense that you have most if not all of your support staff already picked out for you is completely unserious and just more smoke that something else is going on.
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Yeah not only that but there's an argument to be made for why Counsell went with Turang there. Down by one, no outs and the bases loaded. You want a contact hitter there with some speed to avoid the 2 worst outcomes, a strikeout or a double play. Mainly you're just looking for the ball to be put in play. Something Turang profiles well at. You also want to keep his glove in the game since it's close and there are still 4 innings in the field left. It didn't work out but you can't nitpick the logic. Perkins just as easily could have struck out. Perkins struck out at a much higher rate than Turang on the season anyway, lol. Besides, we're really gonna act like not getting Blake Perkins or Victor Caratini an AB in a pivotal moment is some big strike against Counsell? Really?
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Thank you for pointing this out. Counsell should definitely be asked about this. He's so principled when it comes to raising the bar for all manager salaries yet he signed on for a job that wasn't even open. Do we know if Ross was gonna be out either way or if he's only out because CC agreed to replace him? That's awfully hypocritical of Counsell to take someone else's job in the name of raising industry salaries
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I could pile on and excessively opine on your misunderstanding of "market rate" but I don't choose to call it "imagination" when people don't see things the same way as I do. But if that's what this forum wants, I can oblige. It's silly for you to be questioning the views of myself or whomever you were referring to, especially when you're saying some peculiar things yourself.
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Looking forward to the next time you pontificate on something which is your own personal speculation. Which btw is probably around 90% of the time. I'm gonna be right there to talk about your "imagination". Btw, forum mods/owners, isn't just about every post on this forum someone's opinion? Does it make sense then for people like MrTPlush to show such disdain every time someone posts their opinion? Isn't opinion sharing kind of the entire point of this forum, this website?
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I mean which is more likely, Stearns and Counsell became cowards and decided they no longer were up for a challenge or Mark Attanasio changed and they no longer liked the team's direction? Oversimplified perhaps, but something changed. Sure with Stearns you can shout "hometown team" but with Counsell this WAS his hometown team. And even with Stearns, he stepped away before he even could go to his hometown team. No, I believe there's more to this than just getting his dream job. There's so much more to this and I'm looking forward to learning more about what changed in the past 2-3 years. Something changed. Even the players have dropped hints. Not even being approached about extensions, that's another big red flag.
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Woah settle down snappy. Nothing in the post you quoted took sides. Everything in my post was an assessment of how this must have went down. You can't deny that Mark A's statements yesterday were out of character and far more defensive that is typical for him. That's not an attack on MA, it's just noting a truth. BTW, since we don't know everything that led to this, there exists an increasingly plausible scenario where even YOU would change your tune and blame Mark A plenty for this. I think the more we learn, the less Brewers fans will like what's been happening behind the scenes. I don't know how anyone could deny something significant has changed in the past 2-3 years. The remaining questions are what changed and who is to blame.
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Sounds like things went sour and not all that recently either. Mark A is being waaay too candid, which to me smells like narrative control
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Mark A dropping the note that there was no opportunity to match does not mean he would have been willing to. This just as easily could be CC knowing a number the Brewers had told him they wouldn't exceed. In that case there'd be no reason to shop the offer back to Mark as their red line had been clearly expressed earlier. Mark Attanasio seems to be desperately trying to control the narrative right now. Wouldn't at all be surprised if he's trying to save face for the stadium deal.
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What changed? It was without doubt a great relationship in the past
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Rick Sweet would make sense as a cheap option who would provide a comfort level and continuity for the youngsters
