Unfortunately, they become sooooo good that our managemenet refuses to trade them, and then their second year with the club (other than Ray King), they stink... I've often thought the same thing. This should probably be in the trade rumors forum, but does anybody else think we should shop Leo around this winter? Given our relievers' track record, his value may be peaking right now, and he could turn into another Viz, DJ, Leskanic, Henry... his isn't based on any observations of Estrella, just the trend maintained by Brewers relievers since Dan Pleasac held it down for more than one year.