OK, after taking a little time to process today's debacle, here's my thinking: It's probably not fair to second guess every move that Ned makes, or fails to make. Sure, in retrospect, not pinch-hitting for Billy or Jenks in the eighth today seems like a bad move, but I can understand (to a point) the logic of leaving in highly-paid veterans in clutch situations. The decision to leave Turnbow in during the eighth after his two walks was less explicable, but, again, he's getting paid a lot of money to deliver in that spot. So when you look at Ned's moves individually, you probably can find a way to defend them. But it's when you step back and look at the totality of his moves that you realize how inept he is. The guy just seems to have a knack for not making the right move in a decisive situation. (I'm sort of surprised that someone hasn't created a thread for a master list of his questionable decisions.) But this one isn't completely on Ned. Bill Hall has to score that runner from third with one out in the eighth inning. Period. My feeling is that a reasonable outcome to expect would have been a 5-5 tie after nine (Hall drives the runner in, the Pirates turn around and score one run after a quick hook on Turnbow), with the final outcome determined in extras.