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I just don't see Attanasio upping payroll a dime between now and the lockout in 2027. We'll see I guess, but I'm not holding my breath. -
I honestly don't think workload matters all that much outside of the bullpen and catching positions. Contreras has shown signs of wearing down late in the year before and bullpen fatigue is so common it's basically a cliche at this point. But if guys like Turang and Frelick wore down, for example. while playing the same number of games in 2025 that they did in 2024 (Frelick actually played 3 fewer regular season games) that wasn't easy to predict and frankly is on them more than Murphy. Only other place I can see some room for judgment along these lines is Yelich due to his age and back, but it's a tough set of choices there too because Yelich is prone to stretches of ineffectiveness that don't appear related to fatigue.
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Only way the Brewers extend Turang is if there's complete revenue sharing by 2029. In other words there's no way.
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Just my opinion but I expect them to do very little, and certainly not a Hoskins level signing (he was ultimately disappointing but he was still a pretty major FA acquisition for a team like the Brewers). I don't think they'll significantly cut payroll but the savings on Quintana and Hoskins (and Woodruff's) departures will consumed by buyouts and higher salaries for some of the players in arbitration... and they'll bank the rest. Winter (i.e., a lockout) is coming, and the revenue loss from it is likely to be significant while the cost of management and non-union salaries and operating expenses at various facilities will remain payable during any stoppage. Attanasio seems likely to use any increase revenue this year to get through that stoppage. Again, just my opinion.
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I guess we'll see but there is no historical evidence that the owners have the will to miss a full year of baseball. The 1994 strike cost MLB the entire 1994 postseason and the world series that year and lasted throughout the offseason, but in the end the owners caved and settled without the cap they had demanded. They lost about 33% of the 94 regular season and playoff revenues, and that was enough to force them to capitulate when the players made it clear they were willing to sit out the 1995 season. I personally don't think the owners are any better situated now than they were then. The primary difference is the value of their franchises relative to the expenses they'll incur regardless of whether they're paying players. They could tap those resources if they have to, but I don't think they will. It's going to be ugly when it comes, but I don't think there's any chance a plurality of owners will be up for a year of lost revenue, let alone the damage that may do to the value of their franchises.
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Not at the start. But it is nice to think that there's a chance that Chourio won't be the only guy with elite bat upside on the roster in 12 to 18 months.
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One thing to hang on to: Chourio has shown he can play against anybody. Not a shock, but it's still nice to see him confirm it again in the playoffs.
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Nope. Pitching was actually pretty good until tonight.
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I'll do what I always do: not watch and find out by osmosis even though I don't care/don't really want to know.
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True. But the Brewers chase rate, which is wildly out of character, is at least in part on them
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Some, yes. They aren't nearly as unhittable as the Brewers have made them look. (Outside of Snell in game 1. That was an obscene pitching performance.)
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I guarantee you that Turang isn't mailing it in. He's a guy who either by nature or experience has determined that not showing emotion or allowing himself get caught up emotionally in his success or failure is part of what keeps him in his process and maximize his chances of success. That it doesn't work over a small sample doesn't mean he doesn't care. It's tough. Baseball is hard. And reacting emotionally to failure typically results in more failure, unlike some other sports.
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Not when it mattered. There were years where it happened, particularly late in the year, but the competitive portion of their season were long over by then.
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So, I don't want to be overly optimistic, but Chourio is still just at the surface of his potential, and Made has a chance at being a better hitter than anyone else on the roster currently. There's a decent chance that those guys will be on the roster together for 5 seasons.
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Didn't turn it off fast enough. One thing to get beat. Another to be unprofessional. Way to go Perkins. And with that big of negativity, see you next year!
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Well, probably time to wander off. I've had my fill of naive, non-competitive at bats the last few days. What a fun season it was! Also, how good is it to watch your team break the Cubs hearts both in the regular season and the playoffs? The end sucked but the year was fun. There are worse things! And none of the Brewers fans on this site had to resort to masquerading as a Cubs fan on someone else's site to try to feel like less of a loser because our team got trucked in both the regular season and the playoffs by a division rival! Go Brewers, now and always.
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Brewers (Ashby) @ Dodgers (Glasnow): 10/16/25, 5:08pm CT
BarremlensTSSC replied to homer's topic in Archived Game Threads
ugh.... 108 PAs is the equivalent of April 20th in the regular season. There are literally tens of thousands of ball players who have struggled over 108 PAs. If he was a bum he wouldn't have made the playoffs enough for you to complain that he's a bum in the playoffs. It's pretty frustrating at this point of his career to watch him swing over balls out of the zone and roll over everything else, which he's done in stretches for 3 years now when he's struggling. But this is no different than any slump he hit earlier in the season or that any ball player hits periodically. -
Brewers (Ashby) @ Dodgers (Glasnow): 10/16/25, 5:08pm CT
BarremlensTSSC replied to homer's topic in Archived Game Threads
I still think they made Yamamoto look way better than he actually was by chasing out of the zone, particularly in the first few innings. Pretty sure Snell in game 1 would have carved up anyone. -
FWIW, I don't think it's designed for guys like you. I think it's designed for guys like him.
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It's not an either/or situation. A cap, whether it's an NFL style hard cap or an NBA style cap/tax/exception structure would come with broader revenue sharing. Without some kind of spending/salary drag the large market teams won't expand revenue sharing because it's contrary to their interest. I agree universal or at least much broader revenue sharing is probably more important to the Brewers than a cap, but you literally can't get one without the other.
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It's just a CBA vote. But they can't do a cap (or a floor, which is important) without the union agreeing to it. Otherwise it's an illegal restraint on commerce/trade. The union has never indicated any willingness to agree to a hard cap, although they have agreed to the luxury tax thresholds currently in place which is a form of soft cap.
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Only quibble I had is that I think they had a shot to get to Yamamoto early. They chased a lot of pitches in the first couple of innings before he settled in, and as noted above I wasn't watching every pitch after the 5th. Be nice to get game 3 and have some fun.
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First paragraph is probably pretty accurate, except I think they actually could do another $50 million without that much difficulty most years. The Bally disaster didn't help and I doubt they've made all that money back from the new deal. But I tend to agree that even assuming that's correct the incentive to get to $160 million payroll is pretty low when the reality is that doesn't make them any more likely/able to land an elite bat or a #1 starter in free agency. Where it might matter is in the retention of their own players as they near free agency. (Like Contreras, for example.) Honestly I suspect what they'll never admit is that they went into this season anticipating that they'd take a step back and that it was a transition year in the rotation while a handful of pitchers continued to develop and that as a result (and the flux in the RSN market and the TV deal) the incentive to add payroll was even lower than usual leading into the 2025 season. Unfortunately that is likely to continue this offseason with a lockout looming in 2027. Attanasio, and other small and midmarket owners, are probably likely to try to minimize big cash outlays in the next 18 months if, as seems likely, they're anticipating lost games and lost revenue at the start of the 2027 season.
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Really enjoyed the bottom of the 1st inning! Couldn't deal last night, stayed off line for the most part, and when it went 4-1 I put the game on the laptop and flipped the TV to the USMNT match against Australia. Not much fun to be had after the 1st.
