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Not sure if it makes any difference but I'm watching on a Digital/HD box (or is there such a thing? Are all the boxes the same?) -
Saw some posts earlier in this thread about FSN broadcasting the game. Here is what I am noticing. In my family room, where I have my TV connected to a digital cable box (Time Warner), the game is on both WMLW and FSN (WMLW feed). On other TVs in my house where the cable is connected directly to the TV there is beach vollyball showing up on FSN. Weird.
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The problem with this statement is that Coughlan was never the owner of the item, so it's not possoble to say that HY attempted to withold his "invaluable item".
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I have not vistied his blog. From what I am reading here, it does sound like this guy may have a few character flaws. Perhaps his actions were a bit over the top. However, what he ended up receiving for the ball when all was said and done, was not out of line with what anyone should have expected imho.
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Yes, you are correct. However, I don't understand this mentality that if you don't just hand over the ball and expect nothing in return you are a ruthless, cold hearted, opportunist. If I caught a meaningful HR ball, I would expect to get an autograph, a bat, and maybe some tickets at the very least. Perhaps HY came in originally with demands that were out of line, but I think what he settled for was very reasonable. It's not like he just refused to bargain and walked away with the ball.
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Rake him over the coals?!? A bat, some tickets, and a picture. Yeah, HY will probably retire on that loot. I'm not sure how Coughlin is going to pay the mortgage next month, and I'm guessing the Marlin's will have to relocate next year after handing out all these items like drunken sailors.
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Sorry to here that. I'm feeling a little foolish for even bringing up the sunflower seed thing.
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What if my great grandfather was an artist of some note and his paintings were somewhat rare? What if you found one of his paintings in your attic? Obviously the painting would have more sentimental value to me and my family than it would to you. Would you feel obligated to just hand it over to me? If I found the neighbor's wedding ring in my yard, I would not hold it ransom. Obviously, they did not intend to put the ring in my yard.
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Ok, read a little more of this thread and thought about it a little more. Seems to me that many people are not thrilled with the whole ball hawking "hobby". If it's true that these "ball hawkers" push people aside, run over people, cause people to spill there food, intrude in sections that they don't have tickets, etc....then yes, this seems like something that should be looked into and maybe efforts should be made to stop this practice. Also, if HY is obtaining balls in this manner and then trying to "profit" from it, I can see how people would be offended by this. I'm not as offended as others (basically because I don't think his "loot" is anything that substantial that would cause great hardship to the player, the FL Marlins, or MLB), but I understand the argument. Take away all the ball hawking. Let's assume a fan just happen to get a HR ball that was hit his way and landed in his lap. I don't understand why people think players are entitled to a ball just because it "means more" to them than the person who has ownership of it. This is a quote from a post and there have been many other's like it. So What! I'm sorry, but just because someone possesses something that means more to you than to that person, does not entitle you to get it from that person at no cost. Isn't that why you sell things? Because you don't want it and someone else does? The people across the street from us are having a rummage sale. They obviously don't want all that stuff and maybe some of it would mean more to me than it would to them. I'm going to ask if I can just have it.
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You may be right FTJ. But, if so, I'm very suprised that MLB has not stepped in and tried to claim ownership of baseballs in certain cases (Bonds, etc). I'm guessing that it might be because they don't think they have a legal let to stand on. I'm not an attorney either (nor did I stay at a Holiday express last night), but my guess is that the court would rule something along the lines that baseball has allowed the practice of fans keeping the ball for so long, that they could not step in at this point and suddenly claim ownership of a specific baseball. I think baseball would specifically have to institute this policy and make it public if they wanted to protect their ownership of baseballs going forward.
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If I understand correctly, HY ended up getting tickets to the Brewers/Marlins series in Miami, a bat with an inscription, and a photo with Coghlan. Did he ask for more? Yes. Did he settle for less? Yes. Again, it wasn't like he was asking for $1,000 and season tickets or anything completely unreasonable. He owns the ball (regardless of FTJ's comments. I don't think the home team or MLB has ownership of it. Otherwise, we wouldn't see these Bond's balls going up for auction and MLB taking such careful action to mark the balls to secure authenticity for the lucky owner). He has the right to ask for something in return for it without being viewed as being evil. If Hanely Ramirez runs out of bats because of this, he can use someone else's bat on the road trip. It happens all the time. Regardless of "sentimental value", there is a price to pay for every thing. When I take a picture with my camera, the picture has sentimental value to me, but Walgreens still wants my money if I want to order a print from them. If you want something that someone else owns (regardless of how much it means to you), you should expect to pay for it. I would hope that this non-negotiable universal gift would be, at the very least, what HY got fo the ball. I really don't think that what he received was that much. I'm not understanding all the fuss at all.
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Why shouldn't it? Call it opportunistic if you want, but last I checked this was a capitalistic economic system we are living in. If MLB doesn't want fans to keep or have ownership of HR balls, then maybe they should do away with bleacher seats. Oh wait, they would never do that.,That would cost them too much revenue. God forbid they fork over a tiny minuscule fraction of that revenue to retrieve a meaningful HR ball from one of the fans. We're not talking season ticket here...it's a few bats and some game tickets.
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Well then, he should be more than willing to pony up for it. What's the minimum wage for a MLB player now? $400,000? Not sure if this would be the greatest marketing move for baseball. Fan ownership of a foul ball or HR has always been one of those things that adds to the experience of being at a baseball game. What does an average fan spend at a game? Sports is supposed to be about the fan experience. They are the paying customers and they are the reason professional sports exist.
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I have the shell of a sunflower seed lodged in my throat/mouth/jaw area somewhere. It's not really in my throat. It's not stuck in between two teeth. It's almost like lodged behind my jaw bone or something and close to my ear canal. It's really irritating and I'm not sure how I'm going to get it out.
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Also, as long as we are mentioning Patti Smith....how about Candy Slice? http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif http://images.yuku.com/image/pjpeg/39935c1698f97245f240956915beff86946e9ec.pjpg
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Every time I see Richards, I try to figure out what the heck he has tied to, or stuck to his hair. It's almost like people have played jokes on him through out the years by sticking things in his hair when he was passed out and he never bothered to try to get them out.
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I didn't really get a chance to read the entire thread. I did read through the last 10 or 11 posts. A) Not sure if it's true that HY runs over people (including kids to get baseballs), but I hate it when I see people do that. Also, I think if you get a ball, especially a foul ball, it's always a nice gesture to find a kid in the area and give the ball to him. I can understand wanting to keep a HR ball. B) I'll never understand why pro baseball players are so stingy about giving something up in order to get the ball back.
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Ok, I was going to say Iggy Pop, but wow....not even close to Shane McGowan
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This makes sense. So, really the only issue here (other than using up options-which was likely this year anyways), is that he is possibly accumulating more time to count towards being in the top 17% in 2011 (my guess is that he will be playing 86 or more games by 2011).
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Ok, sorry, still confused...I don't understand what playing time in previous year would have to do with his Super 2 status unless it exceeded 86 days last year. This is how it is posted in FAQ: When does a player become eligible for salary arbitration? A player with three or more years of service, but less than six years, may file for salary arbitration. In addition, a player can be classified as a "Super-Two" and be eligible for arbitration with less than three years of service. A player with at least two but less than three years of Major League service shall be eligible for salary arbitration if he has accumulated at least 86 days of service during the immediately preceding season and he ranks in the top seventeen percent in total service in the class of Players who have at least two but less than three years of Major League service, however accumulated, but with at least 86 days of service accumulated during the immediately preceding season. So, it doesn't sound like you keep adding days of different seasons to get to 86 days. If he didn't complete 86 days last year, then it starts over this year. If he completes 86 days of service this year, then you have to worry about Super 2 status. At least that's the way I read this. So, I'm not sure why it would make a difference as to whether he's brought up now, July, whenever as long as his total time this season does not exceed 86 days.
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Major League 4 going to be made
Patrick425 replied to WisconsinSportsRule's topic in Off-Topic Forum
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Sorry to ask this again (didn't get answered the first time I asked), but could someone please explain "Super 2". Actually, I somewhat understand why Gamel is a Super 2, I just don't know that I understand the ramifications. I believe he is can become arby eligible at an earlier date. How early? How long would they have had to wait to bring him up in order to avoid Super 2 status and early arbitration? I thought there was some thread or something explaining this somewhere on the site, but I could not find it. edit: Ok, I found the explaination (in the FAQ section). However, I'm still a little puzzled. How are we so sure he would be a Super 2 player? It sounds like if he has 86 days of service time this year, then after next year (correct?), he could become arby eligible. But if the Brewers only call him up for interleague and send him back down, even if they bring him up in Sept, I doubt that he would have 86 days. Also, if this is true, wouldn't he be FA eligible after 2013 (not 2015 as someone else stated)?
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Could someone please explain what super 2 means? Does that mean that he's eligible for arby next year, or just a year earlier than normal? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I can never keep track of all that stuff.
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Also, two ways to aproach refinancing: One, to save money monthly for extra spending cash. Or, what we have done is just continue to pay our old mortgage payment. This allows us to pay $155 extra towards principal each month and, if we can continue to do this for the life of the loan, it will allow us to pay the loan off 7 years early and save about $44,000 over the life of the loan.
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I agree that the best 4 teams in each league should make the playoffs in theory. However, until there is full revenue sharing and a hard salary cap, I'm not sure that eliminating the Central Division in both leagues is a fair way to do things.
