I think this is way overused excuse for Fip. In reality, what percentage of misplayed balls are not classified as errors? People make it sound like fielders should make plays on any ball hit within 30 feet of them. 99.9% of the time the routine plays outnumber the bad and spectacular plays in a game and Fip ignores all of them. Pitcher A: 7 IP, 10K, 5 ER, 0 HR, 3 BB Pitcher B: 7 IP, 3K, 1 ER, 1 HR, 3 BB Maybe I'm understanding Fip wrong, but I get the impression that Fip would say pitcher A is better than pitcher B. I don't get that. Baseball is played with 9 players, not 1. I think it's reasonable that pitchers should be expected to be able to rely on his fielders and not be expected to K everyone. If a pitcher makes a good pitch on a hitter in a tough situation and gets him to ground into a DP, he should definitly get some credit for that. Sounds like Fip would just ignore that. Sounds like people are trying to reinvent the wheel with this stat.