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People can rip on the old man "back in my day" rhetoric of guys like Goose Gossage all they want, but those guys pitched 3 inning saves and did it multiple days in row and made a fraction of what the current players are making.

Maybe I missed something and there is a better reason..but Jeffress can't pitch 3 days in a row? Seriously?

I get what you are saying Casey about even hands free talking being distracting and there is probably some truth to that, but then you could also probably make the same case for talking to passengers in the car. There are so many times when I see two people in a car having a conversation and the driver keeps looking over at the passenger has he/she is talking to him/her. I don't understand this need to have to look at the person you are talking to while you are driving. The occasional glance, maybe. DHonks, I also often wonder why so many people do not use blue tooth. As you mentioned, its pretty much standard in most cars now. In regards to texting, the things I have seen on my way to and from work every day are incredible. Not just the eyes up and down, phone in front of the face, thumb working away..but there have been a few occasions I have seen where cars have been going about 10 mph under the speed limit in the middle lane, cars speeding around them as they are pretty much lounged in their car texting as if they are sitting on their living room couch, maybe looking up in front of them every 10 or 15 seconds. So, why is it that there are so many people that I talk to who are angered about texting and driving...yet it seems like the majority of people I see driving practice this horrible habit?

FVBrewerFan, I hear what your saying and I agree with you to a point. If there is very little traffic (like maybe I'm driving through the Zoo interchange early on a Sunday morning on my way to play golf or something), then I actually set my cruise control to about 5-7 mph over the posted limit (and alter it if the speed limit changes) and let what ever other cars that are on the road zoom by me if they want. I'll be honest. That's not really so much for safety reasons as it is that I feel like there is a much higher chance to get pulled over when there are fewer cars on the road. However, most of my driving is on weekdays during high volume traffic times in the morning and late afternoons to and from Waukesha and Milwaukee. In that case I'm just going with the flow of traffic (in a construction zone or not). I don't want to be the car during those times that is going 10-15 mph slower than everyone else and making everyone else try to maneuver around me. To me, that's more dangerous than just keeping up with the general flow of traffic.

I completely agree with this and I believe I have stated the same frustration in previous "What's bugging you" threads. This and drivers that will not go around cars that are turning left (when the car turning left is waiting for a line of cars coming from the other direction). The follow up posts to DHonks original post are interesting. The law in Wisconsin still allows you to go into the intersection, correct? It seems like I have seen the "don't pull into the intersection more and more over the last 10 to 15 years, to the point where I'm surprised when some actually pulls out into the intersection (although they never pull out far enough). Interesting about the California law. Motorcyles are allowed to drive between cars, but you can't pull into an intersection when waiting to make a left hand turn. Yeah, makes sense. While we are on the subject of left hand turns, why does it always seem to take so long for the 1st car to initiate their left hand turn once the green arrow comes on! Also, why is it so hard for the cars following to keep up with the cars in front of them so that, again, more people are able to make the left turn. Furthermore, why are there always 2-3 cars that continue to make left hand turns long after the green arrow is gone (I sometimes feel like they are not even looking at the light, they are just blindly following the car in front of them).

I don't understand why so many people hate on players like Harper/Gomez. God forbid someone gets passionate about the game and tries to have fun. Seriously I want entertainment and guys wanting to win. I always hated the dislike for Gomez because he was passionate and wasn't a push over. You say something to him and he isn't backing down. We need more players like that who don't just strikeout and walk back to the dugout thinking about how it will effect their wallet. I love the way Harper plays. It is exciting and it's great for the game. However, that does not mean I agree with his antics in this situation. In regards to kids being influenced. I know everyone hates that when people say "What about the kids!" when it comes to athletes and their antics. Yes, absolutely, kids should be raised by parents not athletes and celebrities. However, most kids, no matter how well they are raised, are going to be influenced somewhat by pop culture and the athletes and celebrities they dream about playing like some day. Here is a quote from Harper himself: "When you grow up and want to play the game of baseball, you pick that one guy you always want to be like," Harper told Yahoo Sports. "I want to be that guy for kids." If you never tried to emulate a player's swing or other mannerisms as a kid then you are a rare baseball fan. I know that emulating athletic mannerisms is different than emulating a player's personality, but when kids "pick one guy they always want to be like" they sometimes have a hard time separating the two. Even if your are certain that if you raise your kid correctly they will never be influenced by others (athletes, celebrities, friends), I'm not sure how a parent watches what Harper did the other night (maybe while their kid is sitting in the same room) and says "Yeah, that's awesome! I agree with Harper...tell that umpire how you feel!" then turn to your kid and say.."Hey, that's not appropriate behavior. I better never see you do that". In no way am I perfect, but as a parent I tried my best to be consistent with how I behave, how I react to other's behaviors (adults or children), and how I raise my son. I never wanted him to get any mixed messages from me.

Its the general attitude by some that they are not going to change their lifestyles at all even if they have kids. They are still going to go out just as much as they always did after work or on weekends with the guys/girls. They are still going to be in two softball leagues and on a bowling team and they will bring there kids to places not really meant for kids if it will help them to continue on with the lifestyle they had before they had kids. There is no thought that having kids means having to make personal sacrifices and changes to your way of living. I sometimes see baby's (no more than 6-9 months old) at Brewer games. Many times the kids are quiet and as cute as can be and are not really a bother to anyone, but it just seems so dangerous and unnecessary. We sit in section 217 where foul balls frequently come over the net and sometimes with pretty good velocity. People will bring infants, bounce them up and down on their knees, and not pay attention at all to the game (why are you bringing you baby to a sporting event that you have no intention of watching anyways?!). One well placed foul ball and suddenly you have a very unfortunate situation. I have not seen any "direct hits" yet, but I have seen some very close calls.

I doubt it will happen, but I hope Harper gets a harsh suspension for his antics the other night. I realize he is a fun and exciting player to watch and he's good for the game in that aspect, but that should not give him carte blanche to do whatever he wants (including coming back onto the field after being tossed). If he does not get some sort of suspension it seems to me as if MLB would be completely undermining umpires and over protecting one of it's star players. I'm guessing the umpire told him that he can not be back on the field and that's when Harper told him to f off. Then continued the same attitude during the post game press conference. MLB needs to show support for the umpires in this situation.

I get that minor league time does not count, but I always have a hard time understanding the number of days in any given year at the MLB level counts towards a full year. Does not seem to be straight forward (seems like timing during the year, what date you call a player up, factors into that as well). Carter played 24 games in 2010, 15 on 2011, and 67 in 2012. If he still is arb eligible in 2017 and 2018, then it seems like that would mean none of that playing time in the majors (2010-2012) counted (which is incredible to me). When the clock finally starts its 3 years of not being arb eligible, followed by 3 years of arb eligibility, followed by FA eligible (assuming you do not sign an extension prior to free agency)...correct? edit: Casey, thanks. You posted at about the same time I made this post. I'm still having a bit of a hard time understanding. - If a player spends less than 20 days in the minors in a given season, an option isn't used up What do you mean by "an option"? I think you mean that players can only be called up and sent down so many times before a team loses control of that player..correct? - Also...how many days does a player need to become arb eligible (516?)?

He is still arbitration eligible for 2017 and 2018 - so yes, he is controllable for a couple of years beyond 2016. He is still arbitration eligible for two more years? His MLB debut was 2010. How can he still have 2 more years of eligibility (and not be eligible for Free agency yet)? I'll never understand the timing process of arbitration and free agency eligibility.

I'm in the camp of continuing the rebuilding process. Trade Lucroy. Trade Braun if you can, if the deal is right and we don't have to eat too much of his remaining contract. Definitely don't trade away any prospects in some attempt to compete this year. Also, perhaps someone already pointed this out and I missed it, but the original post says Carter is controllable. They signed him to a one year deal..correct? That's not "controllable". If he continues at anywhere near the pace he is at right now, he's going to be looking for a bigger pay day after this season. So, trade him too, hopefully while his value is still high.

I know the Phillies have a few nice catching prospects in Alfaro and Knapp, but does anyone think they would be interested in Lucroy if they found themselves in playoff contention this year? They are fairly deep with pitching prospects too (Appel, Thompson).

I have not followed the Stairway to Heaven copyright lawsuit that closely, but I have listened to the song by Spirit that Led Zeppelin allegedly ripped off and I do see the similarities. However, isn't there any Statute of Limitations that applies to this? Both songs were written over 45 years ago. I browsed over the Stairway to Heaven Wikipedia page and it talks about the lawsuit. It does mention that some of the Spirit members wanted to bring a lawsuit earlier but did not have the resources and thought that the Statute of Limitations had run out (but does not go on to explain why there are no Statute of Limitations issues with this). Does anyone have any additional information on this? I find it odd that you can bring up a copyright infringement lawsuit 45 years after the fact.

Thanks Casey. Completely missed that the first table was batting stats. Duh. I didn't really take a good look at the numbers as I was just trying to figure out the split in tables.

Sorry if I missed it somewhere in this thread, but can someone elaborate on Guerra's history? I'm having trouble understanding his player page on Baseball America (not sure why it's split out the way it is): http://www.baseballamerica.com/statistics/players/cards/88417

This one? http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Colorado+Rockies+v+Milwaukee+Brewers+tc7C3tPlz5ol.jpg

My son and I were at the game on Saturday and I remember the climbing wall contestant. My son predicted right away that he would not make it because he got kinda a late start..but he was wrong. Also, not sure I had ever seen anyone compete in that that contest that "rappelled" down the wall when they were done by facing outward.

My son's HS team plays Menominee Falls every year in a non-conference DH, usually at Wisconsin-Whitewater, but this year they are playing at Kapco. It wasn't until last year that I realized that Don August was their head coach (yes, I'm one of the "old guys" on this board that remembers when he played for the Brewers..in fact I think I may have one of his baseball cards). Falls has a great team. They won the Summer HS Baseball championship last year (there are about 50 WI high school teams that play Summer baseball instead of Spring baseball). Edit: As stated in the original post (and I misread) and as my son has just informed me, he's actually the head JV coach at Men Falls.

What did he do? Yeah...what did he do? I like Counsell.

Love Uecker, grew up my whole life listening to him on the radio....but frustrating sometimes when a HR is hit and he doesn't announce the score. Have it on in the background...not really listening to every play...so was not sure if that last HR had tied it up or not. Took him about 2 minutes after the HR to say its all tied up.

Congrats RD45! We have a son (just turned 18) with an April 14th birthday. Sorry, even though I'm a CPA, I can't come up with any good tax jokes. Also, our son is an only child...so can't help you with the older sibling issue either. I guess all I can say is that November or December would have been better timing from a tax planning stand point.

Thought about starting a separate thread for this one, but I guess it belongs here. According to this list, Brewerfans are the most tolerable in all of baseball. Cardinals and Cub fans have predictable rankings on this list: https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/major-league-baseballs-worst-fans-worst-fans-in-mlb

Does the law contain language regarding how fast they are allowed to go when driving between cars? Overheat or no overheat, there is no need for them to drive as fast and as carelessly as they do when they speed between cars. I understand the reward for being fuel efficient argument, but at what cost? In my opinion, these riders are taking great risks with the manner in which they pass between cars and I think I would have more sympathy for the driver that accidentally strays a foot off course and causes serious injury or worse to a speeding motorcyclist that I would for the rider of the motorcycle.

Sounds to me like they run a great business and I don't think any of the workers at Amazon are held there against their will.

The insane law in California that allows motorcycles to drive between cars. Who, in their right mind, thinks this is a good idea? I know its been that way for a long time there, but just got back from a vacation in southern California and was reminded of it while driving on the freeways there. And it's not like they carefully make their way between cars when there is a traffic jam, they are going 50 mph or more with no helmets in between spaces where they can barely fit. On top of that, most people in cars are texting...one small drift to the left or right by a car and it's a fatal accident (on our last day, on the way to LAX, there was a 25 minute traffic delay caused by an accident that involved a motorcycle). I just don't get the lack of common sense in regards to this.