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Yeah, that's going to happen given the odd circumstances that led them to having essentially two sets of starting rotations. A young, controllable guy is going to lose out to a vet that the GM traded assets for all things being largely equal, at least for now. Could change if Civale falters.
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Your 2025 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers
Turning2 replied to Jim Goulart's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
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Agreed. They have an effective, patchwork collection of largely no names. Perralta has performed to his ceiling, admirably so, in my opinion. But nobody is going to confuse him with the classic definition of an ace. Woody is probably going to disappoint a lot of casual fans with inflated expectations of him picking up where he left off without missing a beat. Nonetheless, they have a pool of young, intriguing arms getting critical experience at the top level who could become that high end talent. Patrick, Henderson, Myers, and then Misiorowski right around the corner... somebody is going to be the next Burnes and /or Woody hopefully.
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Your 2025 Wisconsin Timber Rattlers
Turning2 replied to Jim Goulart's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
Puttering around in the north woods, my son noticed this Rattlers sign on the outside of an antiques store in tiny Trego, Really wonder what the story behind it is.
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He's definitely been getting better swings lately. It's funny how much better the .239 / 11 HRs he ended up with last year looks compared to the current .187 / 2.
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Should tell us if this team can hang with the big boys to some degree or not.
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First, they had no idea what his velocity would be at present. Secondly, they ate $2.5 million knowing that they would get NOTHING in return for one full season, and gambled an additional $7.5 million for 2025 HOPING he could give them most of a productive season. And they were prepared to spend another $20 million on a mutual option for 2026. A small market team with budgetary constraints doesn't usually take that risk. Appears to me like they hoped he could come back and be an ace rather than play second fiddle again. He just might by the time late July rolls around. If he does, it will be his swansong in MKE. Some fans think he will give them a hometown discount out of loyalty and gratitude for paying him so much to heal and rehab, giving him a chance to extend his MLB career. I don't. He'll jump ship if a big enough payday comes his way.
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Kind of a quirk of circumstances and timing that Woody probably is at best their #2 assuming he produces like he had prior to the injury. When they gambled on him coming back, I always figured they viewed him as their ace. Had he returned on schedule, he probably would be. Can't say I have a preference because there is too much to choose from and some unknowns. Like, does Cortez factor in somewhere? One thing I will say is, Quintana probably isn't here much longer IF he can get a couple more good outings in before the trade deadline. Also, the end of the year's rotation depends on if they are in the hunt for a WC or not.
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Agreed, not much out there for feasible upgrades at 3B. Ortiz has been putting a few better swings on lately, driving balls hard right at somebody. He was in the .260's average wise (if I remember right) prior to his neck injury last year. He has shown he has the tools to be a competent contact hitter by today's baseball standards. I think people forget this is only his 2nd year. He is more likely to improve back into that range of hit for contact than continue to stay mired in the .180 range. Durbin is not the long term answer at 3B obviously, but he is providing adequate defense and his rookie bat is showing signs of improving too. An upgrade trade would have to be significant, and I don't see that happening either. .
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Another small, no/low power hitting OF. Would prefer they developed some guys with better size that can put on weight and strength. Looking forward to seeing Braylon Payne progress. Not to say Lara can't find a role at the higher levels though. Dinges is intriguing. He's one of the guys I tune in the Timber Rattler games for along with Burke.
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True, I maintain a low regard for the baseball acumen of the average fan. Anybody that seeks out a forum like this, and posts to it regularly, is already far more credible than the average fan in my mind. To your point about trade value, I have no disagreement. However, I don't think it is a feasible scenario depending on your definition of "immediate longer term offensive help". My version of that is a 1-2 year guy who could be penciled in day one after the trade at 3B, and be legit expected to hit 12-15 HRs the rest of the season and around .265 or better... AND be affordable for the Brewers small market constraints. I'd take that in a heartbeat too, but nobody is going to offer that kind of hitter for Perralta, Quintana, or Civale. In the perfect situation, you might get that in return for Hoskins, but then MKE is guaranteed a hole at 1B for the next couple of years. I'm not a casual fan, but even I am not interested at this point in A - A+ prospects from trades. The Brewers already have a crowded farm system overpopulated with exciting prospects. They need proven MLB quality hitters right now, and they're not likely to acquire them in selling. Durbin was that A - A+ prospect, and he's a high quality utility player, but he's not the thumper they need more of. Moving Perralta for another "Durbin" (who I do like BTW) would be a poorly timed, negative PR optic in my view.
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Have been lurking, decide to jump in.
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Someone previously mentioned a "light sell", and I think that would be the appropriate approach as well. The tricky part is determining what kind of move(s) fits that description. The other trick part is determining what the goal is on the return. What is feasibly possible to land in return that helps both now and in the future? They are not going to "fix" the offensive glut at both SS and 3B. They might be able to acquire a single piece to modestly upgrade either of those two positions and then hope that the other piece improves. For instance, could they find an everyday(but short term) upgrade at 3B, maybe somebody that could reliably hit .245, then relegate Durbin to a utility role AND hope that Ortiz can at least get back to his first half offensive production of 2024? Could they land somebody like that with a Quintana + low prospect type move? I don't know, but that would keep the fan base invested.
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From a roster building perspective, that makes perfect sense. But we can't forget the PR / optics and their impact on the bottom line. Hardcore baseball fans can recognize the approach of selling today in order to strengthen tomorrow. Most fans however are shallow, instant gratification, win NOW types. Moving Freddy signals to that type of fan, we're throwing in the towel this year. That translates to fewer revenues from tickets and concessions which exacerbates the situation. Less revenue makes it more difficult to be competitive obviously. It's a tough balancing act keeping a team in the black financially, and one I'm glad I don't have to undergo.
