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With all due respect to Kershaw and Trout, they've already made enough money in their respective lifetimes to retire comfortably if they never pick up a baseball again. Not everyone in the MLBPA is in that situation; and I'm sure for many of the young players with little or no service time, playing baseball is essential to paying bills. So while I'm sure Kershaw and Trout certainly have the admiration of the player's union, they don't represent everyone within the union either with regard to their situation. Once checks start getting withheld, I imagine there's going to be growing pressure from the smaller fish to get the ball rolling when possible. Furthermore, there simply isn't a plan that exists that is going to be perfect. Concerns are valid but hopefully they can address all major concerns in a feasible way because cancelling the entire season isn't a great alternative either.

Since frisbee golf has been allowed this entire time and pick-up basketball is a close contact sport I don't see how this is comparable at all or why they would get lines in news stories. There also aren't numerous small businesses that operate to serve the public needs of frisbee and pickup basketball. I knew someone was going to say this and it wasn't the point at all. It wasn't that golf and basketball are of equal risk. Or that only rich people play golf. I never said those things. Do you guys really think that weren't 800 phone calls to local reps from their best buds asking for an explanation as to why we can't golf, as well as subtle pressure that it would be great if we can play golf? I never even suggested they were wrong. But I don't really know what to say if people think that the affluence of the sport has nothing to do with it getting a green light so quickly. When 90% of investors and businessmen visit a city they ask where they can golf. Donors and reps playing golf is like a century-old custom. I wasn't knocking golf. Well, on that same note literally no one suggested that the affluence of golf had nothing to do with it getting the green light. Not one person disagreed with you on that so I'm not sure who you're arguing with on that point. I just said middle class people play golf too to point out that it's not just the affluent that benefit from this. I just don't know why we should care how it was influenced if it's not wrong. As you said no one is suggesting that they were wrong to do so. There are so many injustices in the world based on affluent influence that I'd personally be more concerned about those, not one that also benefits your average adult citizen.

Since frisbee golf has been allowed this entire time and pick-up basketball is a close contact sport I don't see how this is comparable at all or why they would get lines in news stories. There also aren't numerous small businesses that operate to serve the public needs of frisbee and pickup basketball.

Golf is open because it is the wealthy's favorite sport and a bunch of donors on both sides of the aisle want their golf. Middle class people play golf too. Doesn't really matter to me why it's open. There's no logical health reasons for it not to be.

Ok. But nowhere does this say Phillips/Houser for Fiers in itself was ever an option not would it have been. Nor does it say we would have necesarilly accepted just Santana and Hader if we hadn't come to an agreement on the 4 for 2. Yes, interesting to know who the other names were. But Houser was really just a minor piece at the time (I think he was rated around Houston's 25-30 prospect), so I would guess Houser has worked out as well or better than anyone else on the list.

Golf courses are going to be able to re-open in Wisconsin with some restrictions. Glad to see common sense has won out on this one. If there's any activity that can help people maintain some sanity and normalcy without realistically creating any notable additional risk, it's golf.

I'm not saying it was here in 2019, but the odds of it being around undetected before "Patient Zero" in many states is pretty high.

First confirmed case in Georgia was March 2. If you did have it you'd have been one of the very first cases in the state. In reality though there are probably many firsts in many states who never did and never will even register as a blip on the COVID-19 statistics simply because they weren't symptomatic enough to get to the point of being tested.

The problem with this is that obviously Melvin didn't accept a Gomez for Hader/Santana trade without expanding it to get another piece he wanted. So you really can't say that it *was* two trades since he wouldn't accept it on its own. That said, it's easier to evaluate the trade as a whole if you can break it into smaller theoretical trades in which you deem one of the teams won all of. Probably just semantics, but I can see why it's a little irking to hear people call it two trades. Yeah, some trades just don't work on their own. To me Phillips+Houser for Fiers is a little misleading because it implies that trade on its own works. There's absolutely no way if we had pulled Gomez off the table and made that offer for Fiers that it would have stood a chance of being accepted. And as you mentioned, just because we were offered Hader+Santana for Gomez doesn't mean that that offer worked for us without the additional pieces. Ultimately, that's not an offer that we accepted.

Maybe, but it will depend upon if there is a proven treatment and/or vaccine in the coming months. With having no sports at all for most of the spring I have a feeling fans will welcome games again even if they cannot attend in person. I think it will depend more on the availability of fast and easy testing. We aren't going to have a vaccine anytime soon. At least, not one we know works. A treatment is more promising in the next 12 months, but there's probably not a perfect silver bullet treatment for this.

The Gomez/Fiers trade was not two separate deals and I don't know why people are viewing it like that in retrospect. Fiers did not "net" Phillips and Houser. Gomez was obviously the key player, but both were needed to get the type of quality return that the Brewers got. Phillips would never have come close to being obtained with Fiers alone. While it didn't work out that way, Brett Phillips was considered the cornerstone of this deal and would likely not have been included without the totality of what we gave up and certainly not without including Carlos Gomez who was the key piece from our side. The trade is clearly a massive win for the Brewers.

Fauci more or less came out today and said they (all sports) can play again soon. It's not going to be 100% safe, but nothing will be 100% for a long time. It's just a matter of how many hoops they want to jump through to make it happen and putting contingencies in place. And obviously, no fans. I'm expecting a full season, but completely empty stadium NFL season in 2020.

I don't think anyone is that concerned about missing their graduation ceremony, except probably the valedictorians and salutatorians. But prom, graduation parties, all those other experiences as a senior, yeah that's a lot of memories to miss out on.

Can we find a better way to support high school seniors than sharing our graduation photos? How is this supportive? "Hi! Sorry you're not getting a normal senior year because of COVID-19, but I did! Check out my photo from it!" What high school senior would see these and be super appreciative of it?

I totally forgot Luis Urias and Corey Knebel were injured. Should be inconsequential now.

So many of these types of things have been able to adapt to online meetings. Is there an AA chapter that has successfully done so? I am not sure to tell you the truth. I will have to ask him. I just know they haven't been able to meet in their regular group in person.

Yet I don't think there's nearly enough discussion about people suffering and dying BECAUSE there's a shutdown. Partly because it's very difficult if not impossible to quantify, but it is significant. My father is 88, with several health issues making him a prime candidate to die should he ever get C-19. Scary stuff. Here's the thing though. All of is medical appointments have been cancelled for March, and now April. So what if he does have an issue with his heart, lungs, etc. that's not being identified and treated? That will kill him too. Now, take that example and multiply it by hundreds of thousands of people in a similar situation. Death is the result, we'll never know how many. Now, add domestic violence, child abuse (where schools used to be essentially a first responder,) suicide, depression, substance abuse, etc. The economic impact is always discussed, which needs to be, but the unintended consequences of shutting down causes a whole lot of misery and death beyond economic. I don't think people realize how much the stuff you described is real and how much shutting down everything affects so many other things. People think that those who want to get things going again are just valuing the economy over lives -- it's absolutely so much more than that. My dad is not in the same situation as yours, but he is an alcoholic in his 60s who has been in recovery since 2016. Regularly attending AA meetings is so critical to his continued sobriety. It was a regular part of his routine, week after week, and now I definitely worry about him without it. Staying sober for him isn't just important, it's potentially the difference between life and a spiraling road to death. Now he is just one person, imagine how many are affected by this right now. And AA is just one little blip on the radar of everything that has been shut down. So no, it isn't just as simple as stay home, save lives, worry about the economy later. There's so many other potential consequences.

The '82 team went to the World Series. The '81 team did not even make the ALCS. Big, big difference. I don't think the shortened season has anything to do with '81 being less heralded than '82. I think if the '81 team had lost a 7 game World Series you would hear plenty about them.

Read a story on JSonline yesterday about a 34 (I believe) year old who was originally from Brookfield. The young man was a runner, had even done ultra-marathons, so I am guessing he was not overweight and he was in very good shape. Anyway, he was working in New York caught and succumbed the the covid virus. If a person like that can't fight this virus who can. You're always going to have exceptions. Always. Many people can and have fought off this virus. Somewhere out there last year I'm sure there is a perfectly healthy 20 something who died from pneumonia while there is a 70 year old smoker with COPD who got pneumonia and is still around to talk about it now. There will always be statistical anomalies but it doesn't change the overall rates.

If we win the World Series this year I am unapologetically celebrating it. It's still 9 players on each side playing baseball against each other. Every team has the same limitations and obstacles this year, no one is at an advantage or disadvantage. It's different, but it's not illegitimate.

Testing is the key to everything. Testing for the virus, and testing for the antibodies. Mass testing will answer so many questions. All the stats we have tell us nothing if we don't have testing. The number of infected and dead in Wisconsin tells us almost nothing. If you have symptoms, and you get told you can't get tested because you don't need hospitalization and you just need to go home and rest for 2 weeks and call if you get worse, we need to do better. Imagine how many infected have no symptoms at all, and in many cases we can't get the midly symptomatic tested. If we could test everyone for the virus and antibodies, this thing would be over soon. I heard in March about a 5 minute test that was going to start being produced at the rate of 50K per day on April 1st, but I haven't heard much since.

Yes, almost certainly. I wouldn't be surprised if that gets implemented just for the year no matter what proposal wins out.

Fauci revised his U.S. death estimates from COVID-19 to 60,000 - if social distancing is maintained.

Agree fully with owbc. This, like every other pandemic, shall pass in it's current form. Will it be here a long time, possibly, maybe even probably. But the more we learn, the more we know, the better it's going to get. We are so early in this, in the near future we will have treatments, possibly vaccines -- it really is going to get better. That's not to say our way of life may not change for good, but in some ways maybe it will change for the better. And there will be "normal" again.

I think location does have some impact here. I did have friends in Madison note that they were the only ones at their polling place and were hoping that didn't mean people weren't voting. The negative impact is on that R0 ratio -- how many people each infected person ends up spreading the disease to. Need to get that ratio under 1 to start seeing a decline in cases, and having lines of people voting, no doubt some carrying COVID-19, does not help. If there's a "positive", it's that it may cause the apex to arrive sooner in Wisconsin, but at what cost? There shouldn't have been an in-person election yesterday, obviously, without venturing into the political side of things here.