adambr2

Remember when we said, "We finally have a defense that can give Aaron Rodgers some help." Boy, that was funny. This defense is pathetic.

Defense really doesn't look anything like it looked the first few weeks lately. Giving up a ton of big "chunk" plays, getting bailed out by penalties, and still not getting off the field when they get into 1st and 20 situations. This unit needs to play better as neither the pass defense nor rush defense looks like a particular strength right now. For all the hype this is a pretty unimpressive unit at the moment. Remember, this is a Raider team that has essentially no established wide receivers. Any high octane offense would be shredding this secondary beyond recognition. What happened to Alexander being one of the league's elite corners?

Can't give that up on 3rd and a mile.

So? What else are going to do? Should our goal be to lose to ohio st, win the rest and then lose to ohio st or Penn st again because that's more realistic? I dont know about you but reality doesnt play too much into my sports goals. I mean you can set whatever goals you wan, but I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. No, of course you don't go into a game with the goal of losing it. Obviously the goal for the Milwaukee Bucks going into every game is to win the game, but that doesn't mean one of their ultimate goals is "win every game this season." The UW men's basketball team might have an ultimate goal of winning the NCAA championship this year, but that's obviously not realistic. I usually feel better the day after a game and have more perspective, but in this case, I don't see it. To me, we were exposed as frauds yesterday and don't deserve to be in the playoff conversation at all. We're no more playoff contenders than Baylor and SMU and Minnesota. It's not simply losing that game but how it was done. I understand, as others have pointed out, that flukey things happen, like Georgia and South Carolina. But being up 13 points, with 19 minutes left in the game, down at the 21 yard line of the lowly Illini, and finding ways, over, and over again of somehow letting a team without a single conference win to not only win but rally from a big deficit is just unfathomable. No real CFP contender is losing that game against that team yesterday from 4:44 in the 3rd yesterday in 10,000 scenarios. It's unimaginable. Yet, we found a way. It's no exaggeration to say it's the worst Badger loss I've seen in my lifetime.

Actually for quite a long time the Rice fumble would not have been a reviewable play even after replay returned. For a pretty long period of time you could not review to have a play like that changed to a fumble because as soon they ruled the runner down the play is dead. Eventually they changed that rule to allow a non-fumble to be reversed to a fumble if a "clear and obvious recovery" standard was met.

It's not that you're wrong, I just don't think it's a very realistic goal anymore. If they can end up still playing in a New Years 6 bowl, I'll be thrilled. I think there's a pretty decent shot they don't even play for the B10 Championship much less win it. Losing in Minnesota certainly looks plausible.

Saying "if we run the table we're in" is the same as a Gophers fan saying that right now ..well...yeah, sure, but we're not going to. Our possible "in" to the CFP was a mulligan for next week by either getting lucky and drawing Penn State, or winning a close game vs OSU on a neutral field. We're not being OSU/PSU twice. OSU is on another level than us. We would have been fortunate to beat them once.

I've heard a lot of attempted spin on this loss today, including from myself, but this one stands alone. How exactly does losing to Illinois today increase our chances of winning in Ohio State next week?

I mean I guess if you want a silver lining, if they were to beat OSU, run the table, beat OSU or PSU, they'd be the B10 Champion and have wins over Michigan, MSU, OSU, Minnesota, and either PSU or OSU again. That would have to get them some consideration, I would think. It ain't gonna happen, but if you're looking for a Hail Mary, I guess they probably have to lose again to say they're done.

I don't want Chryst fired....this was a game you have to win, though. Anyone could have accepted this next week. You can't lose to Illinois and really expect to be taken seriously on a national collegiate level.

This team always finds a way to be a bridesmaid and never a bride.

I’d suggest not over reacting as everyone typically does. It's not an overreaction anymore. Because this team is toast as far the CFP goes.

Why are they even taking their timeouts? They can just keep running plays and gaining yardage.

Holy crap. They're actually going to lose.

Unbelievable

They just have to get out of here with a win at this point. They're well beyond the point of impressing anyone today. It's all about surviving right now.

Lose this game and they can forget about all the other lofty goals.

They're either going to beat Ohio St... or they're not. Voters aren't going to care by how much they beat Illinois if they beat Ohio St. Clemson has a one point win over North Carolina. Georgia has the aforementioned loss to SC it happens. Teams can't play absolutely perfect every game. The Badgers should win this game. Put the ugly performance in the rear view and get ready for Ohio St. I guess what I'm saying is that if they're a 1 loss B10 champ, they're not a foregone conclusion CFP lock. There's scenarios -- Geoegia runs the table, Alabama runs the table soundly but loses to Georgia 21-20 in the SEC Championship, do you really think they're leaving either team out then? So while I agree you can't play perfectly every game, you don't want to have too many ugly performances like this and Northwestern on your resume as a 1 loss. I don't expect them to beat OSU twice. I'd like to see them put together a quality conference road win before the end of the season.

Wow, the Wisconsin O-Line just offering nothing down near the goal line.

Style points matter too if you're eventually in the position to get in as a 1 loss B10 Champ. They're certainly not earning any of those today.

Great teams play bad games now and then. Georgia lost to South Carolina at home last week, and is still in the Playoff discussion. I'd rather have the Badgers get their "Bad" game out of the way against Illinois, who they can play bad against and still win, than play bad against Ohio State. I'm not arguing that, but they're just not giving me much confidence today that they're going to be particularly competitive next week.

Regardless of how the Badgers fared against MSU, I hope they are getting this out of their system today. OSU will run them off their field if they bring this weak game next week.

Probably the best course of action right now is for the NFL to just admit that their replay sucks, admit that they have completely failed to fix it, and then copy the NCAA replay system in its entirety.

I'm pretty close. He's still got age on his side, and he's made some defensive progress. But for a guy who was considered a hitting catcher, not a defensive catcher, he hasn't really moved forward offensively at all since we acquired him. It's not a great sign that he couldn't hit in a league where everyone hits. He better turn out to be a pretty good defensive catcher, because his bat will never play at 1st. I think it's likelier than not at this point that he's another Andrew Susac.

It's pretty fair. There would be no need to add pieces like Woodruff and Hiura. Those are 3 pretty strong pieces, Whitley and Tucker are the exact kinds of young MLB ready talent that we'd probably seek for Yelich. I don't know how worried we should be about Whitley, though. He had Burnes level struggles in 2019. Correa is the exact kind of proven MLB talent that we'd probably like to get back as a 3rd piece at a position of need. In the end, fair, but I probably wouldn't do it.