adambr2

Yeah I hate to say it, but this game likely means...probably not much compared to the B10 Championship. Although if you actually do beat OSU twice and go unbeaten you're a guaranteed in, whereas losing this one and winning the B10 Championship is not a complete certainty. Also totally possible Penn State, not OSU wins the East, it'll come down to their game most likely, but with it being on OSUs field I would not count on a PSU win.

Uh, Jon Gray is not "garbage". He is a major part of this deal. I'm not saying I'd for sure do it, but to call Gray garbage is just really inaccurate.

And this would have changed zero calls from last night. Neither hands to the face was egregious, in fact the first one was correct. The roughing call with Allison wasn't remotely egregious -- remember what Matthews got flagged for early last season? The PI non call was so "egregious" that it wasn't even deemed worthy of a challenge by Petricia. None of those 4 plays would have been overturned on review. I don't say that to pick on you at all, I'm just pointing out that for all the uproar over last night, there isn't a single play that anyone can watch, point to, and say, "Wow, see? That was bad. That would be reversed." It all started with Booger using his platform to get the entire nation riled up and like people are these days, most are happy to just buy right in without any real deeper analysis than that.

I hear you. Dude is single handedly destroying my fantasy team.

And I don't think there was replay. I believe they tested it for a year or maybe in the pre-season but they didn't have it. Otherwise I'm pretty sure Reggie's foot was out of bounds. I'm pretty sure Jordan(?) was also down first, but the video quality of that time isn't up to today's standards to tell for sure. At least, not anything they showed on the broadcast. No, you're right, no replay at that time. This would have been mid-90s sometime, I think replay returned around '98 or '99 and has remained in some form since. There was also the original replay era that I believe went from '86 to '91. It literally involved an official in a booth rewinding and replaying the video on a 12 inch screen. And was the replay of use for this overturn:

The funny thing is that the officiating on this play was egregiously worse than anything we saw in the Packers/Lions game, but there was no massive outcry. Different times. Also probably because the game was a blowout.

Honestly, even if you concede that the calls could have gone either way, there were really no egregiously bad (See Mary, Fail) calls last night, including the hands to the face, including the hit on Allison, including the line judge overruling and giving a TD on 4th and goal to the Lions in the first. All were close. Really, the main culprit for the outrage yesterday and today is Booger McFarland. I very, very rarely complain about commentators, but he is the worst I've ever seen. He was absolutely losing his mind last night on any close call that didn't go the Lions' way. When you're doing that in front of a national TV audience, you're stoking the flames. Of COURSE people are going to be reacting on Twitter when the color commentator is acting like it's the worst call he's ever seen. Of course by the time the Lions speak to the media the flames have already been stoked and knowing that, they're going to stoke it further. I'll bet anything that if McFarland reacts on a level of "I'm not sure" or "It was close" and then leaves it at that, very little is made of the officiating after the game. If McFarland is flipping out about the line judge giving Johnson the controversial TD, they're talking about that. It was absolute unprofessionalism by McFarland and again he's 99% responsible for the hot takes and pitchforks after the game. These calls were questionable. They weren't egregious. I've seen games decided in the 4th by much worse calls where even less was made of the officiating after the game, because the commentators decided not to die on the hill of how bad the call was and instead move on with their job.

I mean it's old school extra point distance. Kicker makes it 99 times out of 100 or better. Better than giving them the ball back.

I'm sure the strategy was discussed with him there. I would think anyway.

Booger is becoming insufferable to listen to.

So about teams shooting themselves in the foot...

Too conservative...they're going to have too much time left.

Ideally you want one more first. Then you can probably run it down and you'll be at chip shot distance. I really don't want to see them getting the ball back with 1 minute left. Prater will probably be money on anything inside 60 tonight.

Don't get too cute here. 55 for Mason is not a sure thing. I get the desire to run it all the way down but if you do that you better at least get close.

Huge catch by Graham.

I have no idea what replay you are looking at. When he controlled the catch for a TD he definitely broke the plane. And it wouldn't matter when his knee is down, it would matter when he was touched.

Big time we have. Although the line judge overruling the other ref to give Johnson a TD in the 1Q was a killer.

Booger is definitely full on Pro-Lions.

They aren't. Packers losing this game is entirely on them. They are playing like crap. Entirely? Please. Yeah I mean come on, give the Lions some credit. This just reeks of sour grapes. Yes, we've shot ourselves in the foot tonight but we've also been given NUMEROUS gifts. (12 man call on Detroit led to 4 points, Allison roughing call was a gift, and this one right now that kept a drive going. We've gotten 11 points just off bad calls. The Lions are good.

Aged poorly So did the posts on Page 1 saying the Lions aren't very good.

Well shows what I know.

That's not getting overturned.

Shepherd is an absolute dud.

Didn't really care for that play on 2nd and 10..

Looked like a delay of game, then looked like offside, and they missed both of them.