adambr2

I knew someone would go there. No one was touting DJ based on a 1 game sample size.

But you also have probably been drunk since the 4th and grabbed 2 more just before they cut off sales in the 7th!

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Grandal should have walked on 4 pitches with us having the go ahead run coming up. Again, a run costing call by the "human element".

What a joke of a 1-0 strike call.

You have to take a shot with Grandal here.

It doesn't really matter if we want a cap or not, it's never coming. We've made a lot of strides in improving competitive balance over the years. Revenue sharing. The 6 years of club control is huge for small markets. The addition of the international spending cap was huge, and the competitive balance draft has helped. Hopefully the new CBA doesn't set us back.

Chase: No. Maybe to the pen Nelson: I've beaten this to death but they really screwed up not optioning him earlier and now they can't. They are in a tough spot with him but he's not getting let go. Maybe to the pen Perez: No. Not a very good player but versatility and all that. All paid for for 2019 anyway. Aguilar: Maybe Shaw: Should be in AAA like 10 years ago Pina: No Claudio: Could be optioned but any other option to bring up has sucked equally.

Never a good sign when a flyball is hit to right and you see the entire Aurora health care bullpen area has bailed.

Lol at this: BA: "Chris Hook was on his way out to the mound, but Craig Counsell called him back."

The Braves have spent 4M more than us on their roster. It's not that big of a difference.

A Corbin Burnes heater in the ribs would have likely made Dieteich re-evaluate how much he enjoys getting hit by a pitch the rest of the series.

I'm pretty sure almost everyone on this board wanted Coles fired at some point last season. I don't see what Johnson would have done with the Brewers pitchers that would help this year. It is entirely possible Burnes and Peralta are the same pitchers with Johnson as the pitching coach. The narrative just changes then to is Johnson just a one year wonder. Coaches are scapegoats and nothing more in baseball at least for fans. Fall guys happen when an entire unit isn't getting the job done. You think Dom Capers was 100% of the reason the Packer' defense couldn't stop anyone for years? Just the way professional sports is. You can't go out and replace an entire pitching corps.

I'd like to have seen DJ get the chance to work with all 3 as members of our rotation this year, but that might just be me. My personal opinion is our pitch sequencing this year has stunk. Is there any way to see our pitching splits this year for Grandal vs. Pina? That would be a good place to look at that since Pina is pretty well established here now.

Can we play a competitive game at some point, so we don't have to waste a Josh Hader appearance on a "he needs to get some work" outing? He's getting pretty close to that point.

And yet, none of those 3 guys had great results recently up until this season. The Yankees were willingly looking to dump Gray after posting an ERA near 5 for them in 2018. Castillo has dropped over 2 runs on his ERA and nearly a run off his FIP from last season. Roark was coming off two very mediocre seasons in Washington. I don't disagree that the Reds have better talent in their rotation, but talent doesn't automatically equate to better results as we saw with all 3 of them coming into this year. Absolutely a pitching coach can make a difference in unlocking those results. I absoltuely believe that having better talent will lead to better results. Why else sigh a Grandal or Moose if they didn't think having that extra talent would lead to better results. Roark has had a very good career and I'd argue that his last couple of years were probably better than mediocre (last year more so). Castillo has always had this pedigree. His numbers will come back to earth a bit but he always had TOR potential. Gray was pretty darn good in Oakland. That talent didn't just disappear. Mahle was a top 100 guy. DeScalfini is the only one that hasn't been pretty darn good so does the DJ magic just not work with him? Still, he'd instantly be our second or third best pitcher. On DeScalfini, I don't think any DJ supporter is saying that every pitcher under a good pitching coach is automatically going to be better. I also don't think anyone is going to argue with you that better talent will lead to better results. Burnes and Woodruff were both top 100 guys too. Peralta was right on the edge of it. That's 60% of our rotation to begin 2019. What do you think of these guys? Do you just think they were just overrated from the get-go, just not ready, or what? Honestly asking.

It’s the umpire’s discretion. He could deny Dietrich the HBP. They can, but they never, ever do. At least not that I hear.

And yet, none of those 3 guys had great results recently up until this season. The Yankees were willingly looking to dump Gray after posting an ERA near 5 for them in 2018. Castillo has dropped over 2 runs on his ERA and nearly a run off his FIP from last season. Roark was coming off two very mediocre seasons in Washington. I don't disagree that the Reds have better talent in their rotation, but talent doesn't automatically equate to better results as we saw with all 3 of them coming into this year. Absolutely a pitching coach can make a difference in unlocking those results.

Ok, Chacin overperformed why? Just because he did? You cannot say they have a talent problem now and then point to Chacin from last year to imply talent, not coaching was the difference last year when he is literally the same guy. And Miley had pitched a total of 6.1 innings at this point for us last year.

Shaw should change his walkup music to whatever they play when the contestant fails to win the prize on the Price is Right.

I've seen more pitching "guru" types come and go than I'd like to admit. All of them were the best in the game.....until they weren't anymore. Mezzone was great until he didn't have Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz anymore. If you want to blame this all on not having DJ, fine. I'll side with the talent level being poor. So keep beating the drum I guess. I never said all. I'm sure it's a combination. But like I said, the talent level is literally almost the exact same as last year.

Guys who whine about calls that were correct just look silly. Umpires make plenty of actually wrong calls without complaining about the right ones.

Yep, mid-ling purgatory is looking this team in the face. I hope not. Middling purgatory is like the worst place to be. I'd rather be a seller than in the middle. I keep telling myself that there are too many guys that should be turning things around for this to last but after 76 games you start to wonder if that turnaround is ever coming. Without Yelich this team is probably shopping Moose and Grandal at the deadline.

They're not good, but it's pretty much all the same dudes from last year. Derek Johnson made these bad pitchers look good. Without him leading the staff these are the results. I've been beating that drum for awhile, but not everyone is convinced.

They're not good, but it's pretty much all the same dudes from last year.