It's been said before, but lurking for a couple weeks/months is probably the best thing to do before you start posting. Last March, I started my first thread, entitled "Dana Eveland - I don't see the upside". This was based on him showing up 20 pounds overweight for camp and getting lit up on quite a few occasions. Plus I don't tend to have the attachment to prospects that many of our posters do - there's just so many people that are run through the minor league system that don't pan out. This, of course, does not apply to Gallardo, Braun, Inman, or Jeffress. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif (Side note: I still believe that I am right about Eveland....but I digress.) Needless to say, the response was very anti-KegStand. But in the same respect, I probably could have formed my argument in a more persuasive way. I'm sure I came off as a "noob". But since I didn't act pompous about it like jondoe, eventually after a couple months of posting and chat room appearances I felt like a valued member of the BF.net community. While I don't support "hazing" anyone, I don't have a problem with having a high level of expectations for the content on these boards.....it is OUR community, after all. That doesn't mean that we all have to value stats to the same extent, or even at all. It just means using logic and information to support your opinions.