While I might agree with you, I wouldn't want to battle the wrath of the Yost-haters. Why not? -- Please do not interpret this as snarky, but a lot of the Nedophiles do not try to argue in the manner that BUC does. BUC does a great job addressing things that the haters actually type (as opposed to constructing fantasy scenarios), and presents his own arguments in a non-confrontational way, yet clearly states points and counter-points without resorting to strawman arguments, or treating each Yost-hater as part of a hive mind. BUC is a great poster, I have certainly learned from and appreciated his effort. That said, I think he may be standing too close to the helium tank sometimes... http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif