If you want to know how badly the media overvalues wins look no further than Mel Kiper on ESPN radio last night. "To me if you want to be a Hall of Fame pitcher you had to have won 20 games at least once in your career" At least the host disagreed with him, but there should be a new way of determining awards. Maybe there can be a round table of Bill James, Rob Neyer, Yoda, Billy Bean, Theo, the frozen corpse of Ted Williams, and all the best baseball minds in the country, can duke it out over a 4 hour session + lunch. TV coverage of course.