I thought I was pretty clear, but let me try and make it more understandable. It doesn't make you any less of a fan, or a substandard person, but I find it unacceptable for myself to settle for less, be satisfied, or give less than my all. That's all these excuses seem to accomplish. Poor payroll be damned, poor facilities be damned, poor fanbase be damned (unlike Milwaukee, which supported their team), the 2008 American League Champions found a way to get the job done. Then, in 2009, weren't satisfied, but added to team and continued to set themselves up to be better..not subtracted. So, no, it doesn't make you less of a fan, I'm sure your passion runs just as deep. I do think however that it does say something about character, no? Whatever happened to the attitude of "Come Hell or High Water, we're going to get the job done!"? It just doesn't run deep with this management system and it seems to have rubbed off on some of the fan base. Going on year 7..year 8.. you just expect something a little better than .480 baseball. But, really did we expect better when this management system continues to mismanage payroll and hire free agent pitchers who have a track record of losing more than winning? I don't expect them to spend $210M, but I do expect this management system to surround themselves with winners, set themselves up to be winners, to carry themselves as winners, to portray a winning attitude, rather than sitting back and making excuses as to "poor me, the system has us beaten". I for one, do demand these things as part of my value system, and if that is unrealistic, then my apologies for offending anyone who thinks the status quo, mediocre, content to never achieve one's all is perfectly acceptable because heck, "We're Milwaukee". Perhaps when that philosophy and line of thinking changes at the top with management, so to can the entire landscape of Milwaukee Brewers baseball.