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SUPPAN WALK!

That will work! I don't have Suppan swing here. I don't want to take the chance of him grounding into a double play. If he strikes out, so be it.

Please get at least one in Kendall.

Bowman with a pretty good outing. 7 innings, 9 hits, 3 runs (2 earned), 0 walks, 6 strikeouts.

I know what you want. You want us to sign Byrd so the Red Sox get a draft pick. We'll make you a deal, we'll sign Byrd tomorrow, if you sign Sheets tomorrow. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif Honestly though, I don't see Byrd as an upgrade in the rotation.

Unless there was an injury to him that I don't know about, leaving Chris Dennis off the Wisconsin roster to start the year was a crime. 2-3 again today with a double. Tim Dillard struggling giving up four earned runs (three homers) in six innings today. He has 22 strikeouts and 21 walks on the year and only has a GO/AO of about 1.6. That's not going to get it done when you're striking out only 3.5 per 9 innings. I'd still rather see Dillard up here as a reliever, where his future is anyways than Julio.

Yeah, 91 pitches, he should be good for another. Don't want him going any more than 6 today though.

Big 5 run 4th inning for the Rattlers with the help of 4 singles, 2 walks and a wild pitch.

Age might matter if we were considering their prospectum, but we're not. I think it does. Not only is nearly every hitter Butler faces younger than him, but nearly every hitter Porcello faced was older than him. Butler was also repeating A+. Why are you using Butlers stats from last year? Butlers GB/FB ratio is the same this year as Porcello's last year. Butler's GB% was from this year. He's walked more than Porcello did as well. Porcello had him beat in nearly every category. Age, GB%, walks etc.

Oh geez. They showed Gallardo walking off the mound. I guess it's because a band-aid on his elbow is "distracting", I thought he was hurt and coming out.

I understand your logic, but Blake doesn't want to be in Milwaukee to the point where he just flat out won't play up to his ability IMO. Right, Blake is an expiring contract on steroids right now. If we trade for him and then waive him, he's happy because he could probably go back to Portland or wherever he wants and we get instant savings since his contract is unguaranteed. I personally (I know it's not my money) would re-sign CV and Sessions and use the #10 pick. I know that would put the Bucks most likely above the tax I would like that too, but Kohl won't and never has gone above the luxury tax. I would look to trade Alexander for a 2nd round pick, maybe explore trading Jefferson to San Antonio for a couple of their partially non guaranteed contracts and then explore Ridnour trades. I want at least Sessions and the 10th pick on the team next year. I'd like to see Villanueva and Ilyasova brought back, but that seems unlikely at this point since I don't think we'll be able to clear enough salary.

Right, but then we can't trade him right after he signs a contract. We would have to wait 30 days at least I believe.

I think it will be Rivera and Corporan unless Kendall wants to come back for like $1.5 million.

Difference is Porcello was 19 years old and going through A+ for the first time, Butler was 23 and going through A+ for the second time. Porcello also had a better GB% (64.1% to 53.1%) and walked less (2.27 BB/9 to 4.01 BB/9.)

It's not just "a few months" of Hardy. It's a year and a few months plus draft pick(s).

You don't let young cheap assets go. Those guys at the very least should require picks in return and they won't be overpaid, so we could easily trade them.

1) What is the status of Mbah a Moute for next year? His salary is not listed here, but he signed a two-year deal, right? He actually signed a three year deal, after next year, the final year is unguaranteed, but that will definitely be picked up as it's under $1 million ($897 thousand and some change if I'm not mistaken.) 2) What are the odds that Elson and Allen don't cash in their options? If Elson and Allen cash in their option, can the Bucks buy out the options, and if so would the buyout count against the cap? I believe Elson already said he would exercise his and Allen is terrible so there's no way he's getting more money than he is now (I actually doubt if any team would offer him anything) so I'm 99.9% sure he'll pick his up. 3) Is Charlie Bell good enough to be able to trade him for a 2nd round pick to clear out his salary? How likely is that? (That would clear cap room for Ilyasova or their draft pick.) How likely would be trading Ridnour for a 2nd to clear up cap room? Mediocre player, long term salary. Very unlikely. 4) With the draft being relatively weak after the first three picks, how realistic would it be to trade their first this year to another team for their first next year? Depends on the team. Teams like Oklahoma City, the Clippers, Grizzlies, etc. wouldn't since there's a chance that their picks will be higher next year than #10 this year. Teams in the 10-16 range are probably out as well for the same reason. The only teams who would probably consider it are teams like the Lakers, Cavs, Magic, Celtics etc. That's not something we should do though. If another team wanted to trade up to the Bucks #10 pick, how likely would they be able to trade down and get the other team to take Gadzuric or Ridnour in exchange for swapping picks? We would need to find a team with cap space to absorb the salary. We might be able to get Steve Blake, Sergio Rodriguez and #24 for Ridnour and #10. Blake's salary is completely unguaranteed and Rodriguez only makes a little over $1 million as well. Of course if Portland just waives Blake they could have a good amount of cap space so they would have to decide whether they want to make an offer to Sessions, so they might not do that. 5) Technically this is the last year of Redd's deal, but he has a player option for 2010-11; granted it is at $18M, but how does that affect his trade value this offseason? Would Redd be more likely to take the $18M for one season and then go to free agency, or decline the option and seek a longer-term deal at less than $18M the first year of the deal? I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that both Redd and Jefferson are going to take their player options. If they decline them, they aren't even going to be close to the best free agents on the market so I think they'll probably take what they are guaranteed to get and then go to free agency in 2011 where they won't be overshadowed by LeBron, Wade, Stoudemire, Bosh etc. 6) Sessions becomes a restricted free agent on 7/1 but the draft is on 6/25; if they draft a PG (preferrably Flynn, or Holiday or Curry) do they just let Sessions walk I would hope it depends on how much the offer is. If he's offered say 4 years, $14 million and signs the offer sheet, I'd hope we sign him regardless of who we take in the draft. If the demand for Sessions is high (according to his agent), what about trading him (in a sign-and-trade for a draft pick) prior to the draft? We're really not going to get much of anything for him in a sign and trade. He's a restricted free agent, so once he signs an offer sheet from another team, he either goes to the team he signed an offer sheet with or the Bucks match the offer and he comes back to us. More likely, is he just leaves since the other team would have no obligation to give anything up. Of course the Bucks could say we'll match the offer, but we are open to a sign and trade and that could make the team worry depending on how much they like Sessions and that could net us a pick or prospect. 7) It is possible to negotiate a longer-term deal with Sessions and CV that is cap-friendly the first two years and then allows for a significant raise the third year when Redd, Jefferson, and Gadzuric's current deals are off the books? My understanding is that Sessions technically doesn't become a RFA until 7/1; would he accept (and would it be wise to offer him) a deal that pays him say $3M the next two years and then say $9M the following two years for an average salary of $6M/year for four years? I could be wrong, but I don't think that's allowed under the CBA.

How about we add Prince and Ellsbury in the deal as well?Prince and Hardy for Ellsbury and Buchholz? That's pretty bad for us. I never understood the love for Ellsbury though.

Villanueva can earn more, but there aren't a lot of teams with cap space and the ones that are aren't in the market for a PF so he might be better off taking his one year qualifying offer at $4.6 million and going into next offseason as an unrestricted free agent when a ton of teams have cap space. Yeah, the LeBron's and Wade's and Bosh's and Stoudemire's are going to get paid first, but there are going to be a lot of teams with cap space that aren't going to get one of those great players and they might get desperate and make a play on a young guy with upside to show their fans that they got something for their cap space. Sessions can only make the MLE next year. He can make more in the following years (although year two would be limited as well.) He falls under the Gilbert Arenas provision of the CBA, which is explained here.

I guess I just don't see this. Yeah, Sabathia was an impending free agent, but you were guaranteed to get two picks for him if he didn't sign. Peavy has a no trade clause that's very specific. There are only a couple of suitors that he would accept a trade to and that could use him. That severely limits his value and the Padres want him off the payroll. I don't view the White Sox offer that was accepted better than the Sabathia haul.

Nice outing by Frederickson. 5 innings, 5 hits, 0 runs, 2 walks, 4 strikeouts, 8-3 GO/AO.

Especially when the opposing team is affiliated with the Cubs. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

He doesn't anymore. He doesn't even have a shut-out to hang his hat on. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

I think the Brewers' offer was 5 years $100 million, but that's still $20 million a year. But again, I don't think we should worry about finances at all. Attanasio and Melvin are much more privy to that info than any of us. Melvin wouldn't even be exploring this if there was no chance Attanasio could make it work in the budget. Jeffress, Green, Anundsen and a lower level pitcher with upside is pretty comparable to the White Sox deal that was accepted.

Or Wright or Dillard. Poreda was 63rd overall in Baseball America's rankings this year. We had Escobar at 19 (I think), Gamel at 34, Lawrie at 81 and Jeffress at 100 (although his value probably dropped based on this year.) I don't really think it's going to take much to get him and if San Diego is as desperate as they sound to get rid of him we might be able to get him for Jeffress, Wright, Green or Dillard and some lower level but higher upside arm.