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What could we have assumed for him? Arbitration Year 1 - $4 million Arbitration Year 2 - $6 million Arbitration Year 3 - $8 million Free Agency Year 1 - $12 million Free Agency Year 2 - $14 million Free Agency Year 3 - $16 million So that's what, $60 million? I don't think it's a huge overpayment, and if an extra $6 million over six years is what it took to lock up a good, young player, then I would've done it too.

Why would they downgrade on defense if the offense is still going to be the same no matter what position they play?

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Don't forget become a GM of a team that players don't have in their no trade clauses.

There was an article on brewers.com that said Randolph was going to work with Escobar at second base in spring training.

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Q: How do you beat the Badgers? A: Let them get a multiple goal lead.

Sheets' 2008 actual salary - $12.1 million What he should've earned in 2008 - $20.6 million http://www.fangraphs.com/...ayerid=710&position=P

I'll take the playoff appearance over LaPorta and Brantley. I also don't understand this either. What if the draft picks we got for Sabathia turn out to be just as good as LaPorta and Brantley? Will he still get heat?

It's truly a mystery.

We weren't interested in Hoffman at one point either. http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/35937804.html I'm sure Melvin is still interested in Dunn to some degree.

Yeah, that makes the most sense. He basically turned down $12 million guaranteed. Now there's almost no market for him and those that do want him don't have a ton of money left to spend and are concerned about his injury history. Probably trying to save face and hold out as long as he can hoping a team gets desperate and spends more than they otherwise would have.

I doubt the D'Backs get Sheets. Link

They're waiting until the results of the dunk contest. Update from a Memphis paper last night is that the discussions are ongoing. http://cmimemphis.com/grizblog/node/439

Impossible in the NBA. There's three ways to acquire players in the NBA. Draft, trades and free agency. We're capped out, not bad enough to pick in the top 10 where pretty much all the good players go and don't have a lot of trade assets. We're likely going to continue to be the 7th or 8th seed or we're going to tear down the roster and start from scratch. I'd prefer the latter.

This is what I'm pointing out. Alexander was picked in the lottery based on those 11 games and then his workouts. If those 11 games happened in the beginning of the year and then he fell off, he wouldn't have been talked about in the lottery. Since those 11 games happened towards the end of the season and in the Big East tournament, he got a ton of hype from ESPN, that's when he all of a sudden started rising up the draft boards. Then his workouts came and he rose a little more because of his athleticism. The problem is, we looked at those 11 games and saw big improvement from the previous year and thought he had a lot of potential, but didn't look at the rest of the year and how he had only made a slight improvement until those final 11 games.

I added the stats, just in different segments. Let me ask this, if he had those 11 good games at the start of the season, but fell off in the final 22. Would he still have been a lottery pick? As for the stats of Brewer and Green. Brewer is terrible and Green isn't that great either. In fact, Ty on Bucks Diary had Green as the most harmful player in the NBA last year. http://docs.google.com/Vi...ocid=dd4nrbjq_258ff4s4df2

How many games was that? It's a very, very small sample size and let's not forget Alexander was also playing with the talent level you mention. Five. I don't think we should throw it out as sample size however. Especially when he was awful in the preseason and regular season. He's played better in other 'real' games this year. He's had those good games in garbage time this year. His best games this year were against the Lakers (we were losing by 30 so we put all the scrubs in) and Denver (same thing as the Lakers game.) It's pretty telling that our 2nd round rookie, who is only a few months older than Alexander is not only getting all of his minutes, but performing better than Alexander could ever dream of. What does that prove? That you think these numbers in the Big East conference makes a player suck? There's nothing wrong with either of those numbers in my opinion. If that's bad, give me 12 Joe Alexanders at a major conference. In your opinion, what is average? 25 ppg while shooting 60%? What's good then? 35 ppg with 75% shooting? Okay, let me rephrase that. Do those 14 point, 5 rebound games as a junior strike you as that of a lottery pick? They don't to me. You either have to be dominating as an upperclassmen or have a standout skill if you're not dominating to consider being drafted that high. I don't see any standout skill and he only dominated for 1/3 of a season. The main problem I had with the pick is that I think the Bucks saw his last 11 games and then saw how he tested as an athlete and fell in love with him. So much so, that they only worked out him and Anthony Randolph. That's terrible that they zeroed in on basically two guys and didn't even consider anybody else.

Shouse vs RHP: .301/.370/.452/.822 Mota vs RHP: .216/.281/.352/.633

Ned Yost disagrees. In fact, his best value is intentionally walking lefties and facing righties. http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

But he shot only 34.6% from the field. Would you rather have the guy who scores 16 points on 35% shooting or a guy who scores 10 points on 60% shooting? That makes it all the more disappointing. He was a lottery pick going up against undrafted, 2nd round and NBDL guys hoping to impress and get a contract from somebody. The fact that he was terrible in the summer league was a huge red flag. He was bad as a freshman and sophomore and mediocre as a junior until that 11 game stretch. To help prove my point. He averaged 14.3 points on 44.3% shooting, 5.7 rebounds, 2.2 assists, 2.0 turnovers and 1.5 blocks in 30 minutes in the first 22 games of his junior year. In his final 11 games he averaged 21.6 points on 52.1% shooting, 6.9 rebounds, 2.9 assists, 2.0 turnovers and 1.4 blocks in 33 minutes. That's when he started to get hyped up by the media, then he did the workouts and tested out as a great athlete and got hyped even more and all of a sudden it seemed everyone forgot about his mediocreness (yeah, I'm making up words now) for two thirds of the season.

I would take Conley over Alexander in a second and I'm not even a Conley fan. I can't believe the Bucks got duped into taking Alexander. He was a mediocre to bad college player until the last 15 games of his final season and shot up the boards based on that. He shot even further up after he tested out as a great athlete. The guy has looked completely lost in the little time he has actually played, he looked awful in the preseason and looked awful in the summer league against guys who get signed to 10 day contracts. It's better to admit the mistake now and get value while you can than to hang onto him until he holds no value.

You don't have to believe it. It was also all over the Memphis paper (they picked up on it first) and one of the guys on realgm said the player's agents were notified and as of early last night they thought the deal was going to get done. I don't know if it will or won't, but that's what I know right now.

Gery Woelfel says this deal is done pending approval from Kohl.