Dempster

[SRB]

Let's say the contracts are the same, who do you take: Marcum or Dempster?

Dempster. I think Marcum has the potential to be slightly better ERA/FIP-wise, but if I'm signing a veteran at all I want a guy who is extremely consistent and is a good bet to give you 200 IP. The way Marcum pitched at the end of 2011, I just don't trust his shoulder at all.

 

Dempster's xFIP the last five seasons: 3.77, 3.70, 3.74, 3.76, 3.69

[sheetskout]

That would be a great x-mas present.

NO DEMPSTER!

 

AND he'd be out of the division. He seems to play his best against Milwaukee....

 

Last 3 Years vs. Brewers:

63.0IP 10GS 2.57ERA 50/22 K/BB 5HRa

 

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/splits/_/id/3845/type/pitching3/ryan-dempster

[SRB]

AND he'd be out of the division. He seems to play his best against Milwaukee....

 

Last 3 Years vs. Brewers:

63.0IP 10GS 2.57ERA 50/22 K/BB 5HRa

He seems to like Miller Park in general, FWIW: (career) 101.1 IP, 2.66 ERA, 1.174 WHIP, .221/.301/.369/.670

[JohnBriggs12]

Looks like we dodged the Dempster bullet. Whew. I guess we have Randy Wolf's 2012 season to thank for that. Glad Melvin learned that lesson and stuck to his guns.

[DR28]

Looks like we dodged the Dempster bullet. Whew. I guess we have Randy Wolf's 2012 season to thank for that. Glad Melvin learned that lesson and stuck to his guns.

 

Yep Dempster will be a Red Sox before the day is over... Thank god! Now it's time to turn our attention to Edwin Jackson or Shaun Marcum!!

[monty57]

Let's say the contracts are the same, who do you take: Marcum or Dempster?

 

If the contracts are the same at one year, it's a toss up (assuming Marcum is healthy), but at multiple years, I'd take Dempster.

 

The more likely decision, however, would be signing Marcum to a one-year deal or Dempster to a higher cost, multi-year deal, in which case that's not even a close choice for me... Marcum in a heartbeat, again assuming Marcum is healthy.

[DR28]

Sounds like when Dempster signs in Boston, we're done going after FA SPs... What a shame!!

 

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/183356521.html

[torts]

Dempster is signing with Boston

[brewcrewdue80]

Figured after 3yr offerings to the other two, Victorino and other name slips me,

They offered Dempster 2/25 they probably had to go 3/39 would be the Hat Trick then on the 3deals 3/39s

 

I'm glad with that. I think Dempsters numbers as a whole along with many other pitchers in the NL were fortunate. There were a ton of NL teams that were inefficient scoring runs. Then add serious Star injuries on teams Kemp,Votto,Tulo while I haven't gone game by game on Dempster to see who he faced there's a lot of luck out there to been had. 1yr would be fine, 2 is eh? The 3rd just wreaks of bad high price risk signing. There's a bunch of teams with pitchers to be traded to make room for the younger prospects. Brewers are in that stage where filling starters and young pitchers perform you now need to move someone. Who's easier to trade? 35+pitcher at 12+mil/yr? Or a team controlled young pitcher in Arb years?

I dont want the young guys to be traded if they can be #3s/4s or better at low cost it creates wiggle room to sign the better players as they grow in cost. A Dempster signing doesn't do that.

[wisniewski]

Melvin's comments were a little perplexing...he said once Dempster signed in Boston, the Brewers wouldn't explore any other SP options. So, it was either Dempster or bust the whole time?

 

I have a hard time believing that. But if indeed true, that offseason plan flat out stinks.

[JohnBriggs12]

The comments Melvin made could be a smoke screen. There's still a lot of guys out there that are viable rotation options but it appears Melvin is going to play a waiting game and let them come to him. The Brewers do have 6 legit starting candidates heading into ST. I think the ideal number is 7, but if he likes what he has, is getting good reports on Narveson, there's no reason to sign a guy just to sign a guy when come February, there might be a guy who'll take a minor league deal who won't now. Either that or he's got some trade discussions ongoing too. There's also going to be teams with excess arms in March who will need to move guys. Why deal for them now. Wait for teams that have to trim rosters.

[markedman5]

Nope...they got Dempster for 2 years

 

Gordon Edes ‏@GordonEdes

Dempster, Red Sox strrike 2-year deal for $26.5m, pending physical., source confirms. @Ken_Rosenthal first with this one,.