Wisconsin @ Ohio State 9/24

[MadThinker88]

8 minutes ago, PeaveyFury said:

So Leonhard would get a mulligan because of the talent gap but Chryst would be on the hot seat despite it? Doubt it very much. Either it’s a pass for everybody or everyone takes the blame. 

I can see your viewpoint for that post but I wasn't suggesting a mulligan. 

Paul C has responsibility over all parts of the team.  I don't think either of us is suggesting Jim L has any control over play calling or the offense.

[yourout]

Been a while since the Badgers had middle linebackers this bad.

[PeaveyFury]

3 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Accuracy can be fixed with proper coaching.  The poor and dumb throws is something that can be coached also.  It is just never going to happen at Wisconsin.

Wisconsin’s staff won a lot of games by coaching mediocre QBs into guys who can win games for them despite their flaws. Mertz shows no signs of being talented enough to even do that at this point.

[nate82]

LOL Ohio State up 28-7 goes for it on 4th and 1 at about the same field position.  Yes PC is getting out coached once again.

Not sure what it is going to take for some to finally see that PC is a bad head coach.  This is the second game this season where he is being out coached.

[MrTPlush]

3 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Accuracy can be fixed with proper coaching.  The poor and dumb throws is something that can be coached also.  It is just never going to happen at Wisconsin.

Oh trust me, I agree. Wisconsin has a lot to blame why Mertz has been as bad as he is. They certainly do nothing to help him.

I can’t imagine how long it will be before another high end QB recruit thinks about going to Wisconsin. 

[HarryDoyle]

LOL Leonhard celebrating that the defense is holding OSU to a chip shot field goal.

[MrTPlush]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

LOL Leonhard celebrating that the defense is holding OSU to a chip shot field goal.

OSU probably only kicked it so their kicker could practice his field goals in game.

[nate82]

2 minutes ago, PeaveyFury said:

Wisconsin’s staff won a lot of games by coaching mediocre QBs into guys who can win games for them despite their flaws. Mertz shows no signs of being talented enough to even do that at this point.

None of those players in the past were inaccurate like Mertz.  They just didn’t have the arm strength.  Accuracy wasn’t their problem it was always them not being able to throw it down the field deep.  Mertz can but he is horribly inaccurate with his throws.

If Mertz we’re to go to Oklahoma or Alabama he would put up big numbers.  It is the coaching at Wisconsin that is failing along with Mertz.  Both can be true at the same time. 

[PeaveyFury]

1 minute ago, nate82 said:

None of those players in the past were inaccurate like Mertz.  They just didn’t have the arm strength.  Accuracy wasn’t their problem it was always them not being able to throw it down the field deep.  Mertz can but he is horribly inaccurate with his throws.

How quickly we forget the Alex Hornibrook Experience….

[MrTPlush]

Alright Mertz, time to make it a game and put up 7 points before half.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Joel Stave was never a guy I thought was very accurate. Even when he did complete passes, he hit his guy behind his hands or out of stride, or down on one knee.

Dude could throw a ball 60 yards down the field though. 

[yourout]

1 minute ago, MrTPlush said:

Alright Mertz, time to make it a game and put up 7 points before half.

That's about a 50/50 chance of that or a pick 6 going the other way

[nate82]

Just now, PeaveyFury said:

How quickly we forget the Alex Hornibrook Experience.

Hornibrook’s problem was always deep down field.  He had to loft the ball in order to get it down the field.  This allowed defenses to play up and take away the short passes because they knew they had time to get back on deep throws because it took forever for the ball to get downfield.

[PeaveyFury]

2 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Hornibrook’s problem was always deep down field.  He had to loft the ball in order to get it down the field.  This allowed defenses to play up and take away the short passes because they knew they had time to get back on deep throws because it took forever for the ball to get downfield.

Disagree. Hornibrook lacked arm strength and was inconsistent with accuracy in the short game. But, the staff managed him and the game well and they won a bunch of games with him at QB. Mertz just isn’t very good.

[MrTPlush]

Mertz accuracy is so impressively bad even in the short game is truly a spectacle. In a video game his anxiety/panic rating would be 99. 

[DuWayne Steurer]

Woulda been nice if Bell had held onto that going into the 2nd half with the ball. 

[MrTPlush]

Did the OSU guy break it up or did the WR just blow trying to catch it?

[PeaveyFury]

1 minute ago, MrTPlush said:

Did the OSU guy break it up or did the WR just blow trying to catch it?

They were drooling all over the play of the DB, but I too thought that went through the receiver’s hands first…

[DuWayne Steurer]

1 minute ago, MrTPlush said:

Did the OSU guy break it up or did the WR just blow trying to catch it?

it went right through Bell's hands.  OSU guy might have broken it up anyways, but Mertz finally made a throw and Bell just whiffed on it. 

[RedStickBrew]

Looked like Bell got distracted by the defenders arm but could have caught that. 
 

Wonder how much we see of Burkett in the second half?

[MrTPlush]

Kinda looked like he overran the ball…or I suppose Mertz under threw it a bit. But WR should have made a better effort coming back to it. 

[valpocrewsader]

40 minutes ago, nate82 said:

LOL Ohio State up 28-7 goes for it on 4th and 1 at about the same field position.  Yes PC is getting out coached once again.

Come on. Badgers were on their own 44. OSU was on the opponent 36. That's 20 yards difference. 

[MrTPlush]

Kansas’ QB had a better showing as a punter today than this dude. 

[rickh150]

Allen and key starters need to sit now. Outcome of Game is over. Only bad injuries can happen in 4th quarter.

[LouisEly]

The 2-4-5 defense does not work against OSU.  OSU has dominated the LOS on offense as they have every year for the past five years.  In the first half the OSU RBs had 100 yards before contact.  Way too many times the OSU OL got into the 2nd level because there were only 2 DT on the field.  Yes, OSU is running 3 WRs on the field, but you have to adjust and go with a 3-3-5 especially when you have ILBs that are as inexperienced as what UW has; ideally a 4-2 but UW doesn't have the DEs to run an effective 4-2,

What the hell is going on with Vujnovic?