Playing Time

[jay87shot]

If you were manager how would you divide up the playing time with the current roster.

For mine I am not going to assume trades or injuries.

C- Contreras 112, Sanchez 50

1B- Hoskins 122, Bauers 20, Black 20

2B- Turang 112, Ortiz 20, Andruw 20, Frelick 10

SS-Willy 140, Ortiz 12, Turang 10

3B- Ortiz 92, Black 70

LF- Frelick 90, Yeli 72

CF-Chourio 120, Mitchell 42

RF- Mitchell 70, Wiemer 72, Frelick 20

DH- Yelich 70, Sanchez 42, Contreras 30, Hoskins 20

Totals= Contreras 142, Yelich 142, Hoskins 142, Adames 140, Ortiz 124, Turang 122, Frelick 120, Chourio 120, Mitchell 112, Black 90, Weimer 72, Bauer 20, Andruw 20

Obviously there will be injuries, trades, and pinch hitting that will drastically change this. For me Black and Weimer start in AAA and after 40-50 games take over for Bauers and Andruw.

[Ro Mueller]

I think that we could turn this into a nice little competition, including starting pitchers, injuries, trades. Submission deadline midnight before opening day...something like that.

I hope that we get a lot more than 210 combined starts from Frelick and Black, but we'll see.

[jay87shot]

In my ideal scenario Willy starts hot and like 40 games in we trade him then Turang, Ortiz, and Black play full time from there (maybe Sal play a bunch of extra 3B/2B). I would love if Frelick would just be the everyday LF, Chourio every CF, Mitchell/Weimer be RF/4th OF, and Yeli DH but it seems like Yeli is going to play a bunch of LF so that cuts everyone else's pt down. 

[KeithStone53151]

I haven't seen anything on who fits best where in the outfield. All of Chourio, Mitchell, Frelick, Wiemer have a lot of experience in CF. I would think it's between Mitchell and Chourio for primary CF reps.

Also worth considering, the Brewers will probably platoon Chourio for a month or more if he makes the opening day roster...considering that's exactly what they did with Mitchell/Wiemer/Turang/Frelick. I debated blue font, I'm still bitter about the Brewers consistent mismanagement of top prospects breaking into the majors. Chourio is on track to becoming a star, I'd like to think they won't similarly treat him with kid gloves.

[Outlander]

They didn't really platoon Wiemer, he had nearly 300 plate appearances against righties, just did awful against them which led to his continue decline in playing time July-September.

[Playing Catch]

49 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

I'm still bitter about the Brewers consistent mismanagement of top prospects breaking into the majors.

I presume you believe Hiura was mismanaged, but what other top prospects contribute to your opinion.

[KeithStone53151]

1 hour ago, Playing Catch said:

I presume you believe Hiura was mismanaged, but what other top prospects contribute to your opinion.

All the guys I listed. Turang, Frelick, Mitchell were all platooned early on in their tenure despite none of them having concerning splits in the minors. These are all top prospects, if they are ready to go...let them play. It drove me bonkers watching middling RH options getting starters over Turang against LHP early in the season. Wiemer wasn't really platooned as much, obviously harder to do with a RH hitter. I don't really take issue with how they've handled pitchers, and that pretty much sums up the list of top prospect hitters that have come up the last few years.

[Playing Catch]

34 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

if they are ready to go...let them play.

Even if one conceded that in their rookie seasons there was mismanagement, at what point does a playoff contending team need to consider what is in the best interests of the team?

Hypothetically, if Chourio is batting .180 vs. righties, and .250 versus lefties at a certain point in the season, when would it be appropriate for the team to consider platooning here and there, or pinch-hitting versus RH relievers?

[KeithStone53151]

2 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Even if one conceded that in their rookie seasons there was mismanagement, at what point does a playoff contending team need to consider what is in the best interests of the team?

Hypothetically, if Chourio is batting .180 vs. righties, and .250 versus lefties at a certain point in the season, when would it be appropriate for the team to consider platooning here and there, or pinch-hitting versus RH relievers?

That's completely different than what happened. I would take zero issue with playing the matchups heavily in August/Sept and beyond. I take bigger issue with it in April/May. If these guys don't get atbats against same handed pitchers, they aren't going to get any better...and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when they inevitably face a same-handed relief pitcher because they haven't seen it as much and relief pitchers generally are much better against same handed hitters. You can't simply turn top prospects into platoon bats right off the rip. In your scenario, assuming he isn't improving, at some point you've gotta punt the idea of him figuring it out against RHP and try making adjustments in the offseason...maybe it's June, maybe August, but at least you gave it a fair shot...at least probably 200 AB for Chourio.

[KeithStone53151]

C- Contreras 100, Sanchez 50, 12 FA/minors

1B- Hoskins 122, Black 30, 10 FA/minors

2B- Turang 130, Ortiz 12, Monasterio 10, 10 FA/minors

SS-Willy 70, Ortiz 72, Turang 10, 10 FA/minors

3B- Ortiz 70, Black 40, Monasterio 40, 12 FA/minors

LF- Frelick 90, Yeli 72

CF-Chourio/Mitchell 142, Frelick 20

RF- Chourio/Mitchell 110, Wiemer 32, Frelick 20

DH- Yelich 75, Sanchez 52, Contreras 15, Hoskins 15, 5 other

I combined Chourio/Mitchell as I have no idea which will be the primary CF. That outfield count is going to be interesting.

[Playing Catch]

1 hour ago, KeithStone53151 said:

That's completely different than what happened. I would take zero issue with playing the matchups heavily in August/Sept and beyond. I take bigger issue with it in April/May. If these guys don't get atbats against same handed pitchers, they aren't going to get any better...and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy when they inevitably face a same-handed relief pitcher because they haven't seen it as much and relief pitchers generally are much better against same handed hitters. You can't simply turn top prospects into platoon bats right off the rip. In your scenario, assuming he isn't improving, at some point you've gotta punt the idea of him figuring it out against RHP and try making adjustments in the offseason...maybe it's June, maybe August, but at least you gave it a fair shot...at least probably 200 AB for Chourio.

Do you think that the Brewers have given up on the idea of Turang, Mitchell, and Wiemer as full-time hitters, or do you think the Brewers still hope/expect them to develop into everyday guys?

[KeithStone53151]

7 hours ago, Playing Catch said:

Do you think that the Brewers have given up on the idea of Turang, Mitchell, and Wiemer as full-time hitters, or do you think the Brewers still hope/expect them to develop into everyday guys?

Unlikely, but I certainly don't think they helped their development last year by treating them with kid gloves. I thought last year about, if Bryce Harper came through our system, would we have hurt his development by likely heavily platooning him early in his career? Maybe a little, at least delayed his ability to hit lefties. I think last year, the Brewers did the 2024 and beyond brewers a disservice by platooning the lefties so heavily in the first few months.

[Ro Mueller]

I'll put this out there just to see how wrong I'll end up being:

• C - Contreras 100, Sanchez 50, Haase 12
• 1B - Hoskins 135, Bauers 17, Black 10
• 2B - Turang 71, Ortiz 51, Miller 21, Monasterio 19
• 3B - Black 97, Ortiz 24, Monasterio 21, Frelick 20
• SS - Adames 90, Turang 47, Ortiz 25
• LF - Yelich 90, Frelick 65, Chourio 5, Perkins 2
• CF - Chourio 65, Wiemer 50, Mitchell 40, Frelick 5, Perkins 2
• RF - Mitchell 50, Frelick 40, Wiemer 40, Chourio 29, Perkins 3
• DH - Sanchez 50, Yelich 47, Contreras 30, Chourio 11, Black 10, Hoskins 8, Bauers 6
• SP - Peralta 29, Rea 29, Junis 29, Miley 26, Hall 24, Gasser 11, Ashby 11, Ross 3