Brewers (Peralta) vs Mets (Quintana): 3/29/24, 12:40pm

[Fear The Chorizo]

45 minutes ago, ClosetBrewerFan said:

I looked again and I saw no laughing. It definitely was intentional as he stated that he was trying to break up a double play. But that's not illegal. The rule states: When sliding into a base in an attempt to break up a double play, a runner has to make a "bona fide slide."... He made no attempt to lift his leg to contact him, change his path to hit him, or lose contact with the base.  He did go spikes first but again, not illegal. The full rule is here.

In McNeill's interview, his complaint was that he was not trying to turn a double play so there was no reason for the late slide. How they heck would Hoskin's know that? He cant see if its close at first. Also, McNeill was clearly trying to make a transfer to his throwing hand as he lost the ball. I get that McNeill could have gotten hurt so I understand some offense taken, but he was going on for a long time about this.  If he doesn't want to get hurt, he should have jumped up after he caught the ball instead of keeping his foot planted. We used to see this all the time before this rule change.

I feel like the advent of shifting has gotten middle infielders much closer to 2nd, so those force plays have them acting more like 1B standing stationary on the bag instead of moving through it or being able to catch the ball and quickly bounce off the base to avoid the slide thats coming.

McNeil could've made it a non issue by simply backing off the bag as soon as he caught the ball, but instead he stood there like a statue and did try to transfer to his throwing arm to make a play to 1st.  It's a totally clean and legal slide, and if McNeil is upset at almost getting hurt he should have practiced taking throws at 2nd more in spring training so he doesn't get himself racked up.

[MrTPlush]

1 hour ago, Frisbee Slider said:

The slide was legal, even McNeil acknowledged that in postgame.

“There’s dirty slides, there’s clean slides, there’s in-between slides,” McNeil added. “It’s a gray line. It wasn’t called. It’s unfortunate. … It was a legal slide, so I just want to leave it at that.”

The rule leaves a bit of a gray area because McNeil was already at the bag for a while…thus, was just standing there. Why that matters is because when Hoskins comes barreling in he uses McNeil as a backstop. The only reason the slide is legal is because Hoskins used the defender to slow himself down and be able to keep contact with the bag. Had McNeil had time to jump, Hoskins is sailing over the bag and it’s going to be called an illegal slide.

If the sheer reason you stayed on the bag is because you barreled into the defender, should that really make it legal? The rule is in place to help protect infielders…yet Hoskins is dealing great injury risk to the infielder to make it a ‘legal slide’. It is kinda bending the rule and being legal due to a technicality.