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    How Much Do the Brewers Have Left to Spend?


    Matthew Trueblood

    As we head into 2024, it sure doesn't feel like the Brewers' offseason is over. Their roster for next season is theoretically complete, but not as strong as 2023's division-winning team. As the hot stove stays hot, though, the question is whether the front office has the resources to make any more significant additions.

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    As of this moment, according to Cot's Contracts, the Brewers have a projected Opening Day payroll just under $98 million for 2024. That's far from fixed, not least because it only estimates arbitration awards for key players with high salaries, like Corbin Burnes and Willy Adames. Still, that's the most reliable number we have. If the season began tomorrow, the Brewers would be in line for a payroll right around that figure.

    It's safe to say that they have more room in their budget. In 2021, they were at almost exactly this level of spending, but that was in reaction to the pandemic and its ravages on seasonal revenues in 2020. In 2022, they spent almost $132 million on the Opening Day 26-man roster, and last year, it was right around $120 million. There have been some reports that the team will trim its payroll even further for 2024, in light of the fairly extreme uncertainty around their local TV rights beyond this final season of their contract with the soon-defunct Diamond Sports Group, owners of Bally Sports Wisconsin and the other Bally Sports affiliates. We're not talking about stopping at $100 million, though. At a minimum, you'd figure the Brewers have $110 million in the budget, and $125 million still doesn't seem like a total pipe dream.

    It's important to note those numbers, and the difference between them, because it's right around the same as the projected arbitrated salary for Burnes. As has been true since (seemingly) 18 months ago, there are two universes in which the Brewers exist right now: one in which they trade Burnes, and one in which they don't. If they trade him, they'll obviously have a hole at the top of their starting rotation, but they'll also gain an extra $15 million or more with which to fill it. If they don't, they still need at least one significant offensive boost, be it at a corner infield spot or designated hitter.

    Interestingly, what's happening in free agency throughout the league should inform their decision about Burnes, though it obviously can't be left to fully determine it. As has happened for the last half-decade or so, there's a marked gap between the going rate for pitchers and that for hitters. Look no further than the deals signed within the last 10 days. Mitch Garver and Kevin Kiermaier, two credible players with clear weaknesses and limitations but plenty of upside, signed for two years and $24 million and one year and $10.5 million, respectively. Lucas Giolito and Frankie Montas, two pretty similar players to Garver and Kiermaier, also signed this week, for two years and $38.5 million and one year and $16 million, respectively. 

    That's not an especially rational divergence, but it's been a trend for a while and it continues apace. It's interesting, because it underscores the difficulty the Brewers (small market, short on spending power in the short term and even shorter on surety about their future finances) would have in replacing Burnes using the money they'd save by dealing him. If they do trade him, it would seem important for them to get back a starting pitcher who's ready for immediate action in the big leagues, and narrowing the band of acceptable positions or profiles that way is never a good way to maximize value in trade talks. 

    Meanwhile, the relatively low cost of hitters as talented as Garver and Kiermaier suggests a surprising viability in the hope of signing someone like Rhys Hoskins or Jorge Soler. Let's circle back to the crucial numbers. Are the Brewers going to be capped at $110 or $115 million in spending for 2024? If so, they still might not be able to afford Soler or Hoskins, though it would matter which end of that spectrum they inhabit. If, by contrast, they can spend their way up to or beyond $120 million, either of those guys (or another hitter like them) could be in play. In such a scenario, they'd have a pretty complete team, and they would do well to hold onto Burnes.

    On the other hand, the same market forces suggest to us that Burnes would command a significant haul in any trade. The Red Sox, in the wake of signing Giolito, successfully traded Chris Sale (with a bloated contract and an extremely spotty recent record of health and performance) for the reasonably promising Vaughn Grissom, who will be under team control for another half-decade. Burnes, to say the least, would fetch much more. If the budget is even very slightly tighter than we've been assuming, dealing Burnes might make sense, because it's the one way they could fill two important holes in one fell swoop. A Burnes deal should net a couple of impressive pieces, including one who could be slotted right into next year's roster. But it would also give them financial flexibility, so whichever deficiency wasn't well-addressed by the deal could be filled by Arnold via free agency.

    It seems unlikely, especially because of the aforementioned uncertainty about the future of TV rights throughout baseball, that the Brewers are positioned to make a multi-year commitment to a free agent at an eight-figure salary. If they want to do that, though, they can get a bit creative and manage it, especially after a Burnes trade. Backloading a deal would let the team survive 2024, figure out their TV deal beyond that, and pay their new cornerstone in 2025 out of the money they won't be spending then on Burnes or Wade Miley (or, in all likelihood, Adames, or even Devin Williams).

    With the many small but helpful moves the team has already made this winter, they've left themselves with relatively little in the way of urgent needs heading into the new year. If their budget is relatively healthy or flexible, they can sign one established, fearsome hitter and reinstitute themselves as favorites in the Central, even if that status be fragile. However, we don't know that that's the real state of the budget. Depending on the (currently unknowable) truth of the matter, trading Burnes could still be the springboard required to get the team to the next level. 

    How much do you think Matt Arnold and company will ultimately spend the rest of this winter? Does the shape of the free-agent market color your opinion of whether to trade Burnes? Let's discuss the team's options in the comments.

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    Considering what players are getting in FA, it's incredible to me that dealing Tyrone Taylor, who is projected to get a measly $1.7 or $1.8 million in arbitration, is seen as a cost cutting move.  If you can't afford less than $2 million for a player who was getting regular playing time down the stretch for a division winner just a few months ago, doesn't bode well for spending real money.

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    So far it seems we are taking the super cheap road. Ross, Clarke, Haase, Bauerd, Rea have been on very low value deals. Miley is mid-range, but it worries me we are playing the offseason like last year and hoping to find gems in the 1/2-5 million contracts. I would much rather just sign someone like Turner, Martinez, Belt to 1/15-20 than what we have done the past couple years.

     

    24 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

    but it worries me we are playing the offseason like last year

    The Brewers went from 86 wins in 2022 to 92 wins in 2023, I’ll take another plus six win offseason.

    Though I guess to be fair, more like a plus four win offseason with the SantanCanha deadline accounting for a couple of those additional dubs.

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    6 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

     

    The Brewers went from 86 wins in 2022 to 92 wins in 2023, I’ll take another plus six win offseason.

    Though I guess to be fair, more like a plus four win offseason with the SantanCanha deadline accounting for a couple of those additional dubs.

    A big part of the +6 wins can be attributed to Contreras and the vast improvement of the bullpen from 2022 to 2023. Agree on the Canha, Santana part.

    So far we have lost Canha, Santana, Woody, Taylor, Houser, and Rowdy and signed some smaller bullpen pieces and 2 guys who hit .202/.279/.413 and .201/.247/.281 last year. I get we have time but we have essentially added Luke Voit and Winker-esque production to a team that badly needs some offense.

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    1 hour ago, JohnBriggs12 said:

    Considering what players are getting in FA, it's incredible to me that dealing Tyrone Taylor, who is projected to get a measly $1.7 or $1.8 million in arbitration, is seen as a cost cutting move.  If you can't afford less than $2 million for a player who was getting regular playing time down the stretch for a division winner just a few months ago, doesn't bode well for spending real money.

    They didn’t include Taylor to shed salary, they included TT to be able to acquire a controllable future rotation arm in Coleman Crow.

    Trading from depth positions to fill positions with less depth is what smart FO’s do.

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    6 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

    A big part of the +6 wins can be attributed to Contreras and the vast improvement of the bullpen from 2022 to 2023. Agree on the Canha, Santana part.

    So far we have lost Canha, Santana, Woody, Taylor, Houser, and Rowdy and signed some smaller bullpen pieces and 2 guys who hit .202/.279/.413 and .201/.247/.281 last year. I get we have time but we have essentially added Luke Voit and Winker-esque production to a team that badly needs some offense.

    Santana could be added soon, the rest won’t be missed. The maturing of the Sophomore’s combined with adding our 2 best hitting prospects should make for a better run scoring team in ‘24.

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    1 hour ago, JohnBriggs12 said:

    Considering what players are getting in FA, it's incredible to me that dealing Tyrone Taylor, who is projected to get a measly $1.7 or $1.8 million in arbitration, is seen as a cost cutting move.  If you can't afford less than $2 million for a player who was getting regular playing time down the stretch for a division winner just a few months ago, doesn't bode well for spending real money.

    I agree with that conclusion, but I wonder about the premise. I think dealing Taylor was about both the crowdedness of the outfield and the 40-man roster being full, rather than about the money. 

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    15 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

    A big part of the +6 wins can be attributed to Contreras and the vast improvement of the bullpen from 2022 to 2023. Agree on the Canha, Santana part.

    So far we have lost Canha, Santana, Woody, Taylor, Houser, and Rowdy and signed some smaller bullpen pieces and 2 guys who hit .202/.279/.413 and .201/.247/.281 last year. I get we have time but we have essentially added Luke Voit and Winker-esque production to a team that badly needs some offense.

    I guess I'm just not that concerned about the offense at present. Contreras, Free Agent 1B, Turang, Adames, Black, Frelick, Chourio, Mitchell, Yelich (DH) would be a majority home grown opening day lineup that should be able to improve on last years results.

    As a team, the Brewers posted a 92 wRC+ and -61.4 batting runs. in 2023.

    Sure, losing Santana (107 wRC+ | +1.9 runs) and Canha (120 wRC+ | +5.0 runs) is a small (6.9 runs) debit.

    But not having Rowdy (78 wRC+ | -9.5 runs), Winker (65 wRC+ | -8.4 runs), Anderson (85 wRC+ | -6.5 runs), Voit (53 wRC+ | -4.3 runs), Singleton (-8 wRC+ | -4.3 runs), Taylor (88 wRC+ | -3.8 runs), Tapia (53 wRC+ | -3.5 runs), Urias (59 wRC+ | -3.4 runs), Brosseau (74 wRC+ | -2.5 runs) or Ruf (54 wRC+ | -1.7 runs) is a much larger (47.9 runs) credit.

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    2 hours ago, sveumrules said:

    I guess I'm just not that concerned about the offense at present. Contreras, Free Agent 1B, Turang, Adames, Black, Frelick, Chourio, Mitchell, Yelich (DH) would be a majority home grown opening day lineup that should be able to improve on last years results.

    As a team, the Brewers posted a 92 wRC+ and -61.4 batting runs. in 2023.

    Sure, losing Santana (107 wRC+ | +1.9 runs) and Canha (120 wRC+ | +5.0 runs) is a small (6.9 runs) debit.

    But not having Rowdy (78 wRC+ | -9.5 runs), Winker (65 wRC+ | -8.4 runs), Anderson (85 wRC+ | -6.5 runs), Voit (53 wRC+ | -4.3 runs), Singleton (-8 wRC+ | -4.3 runs), Taylor (88 wRC+ | -3.8 runs), Tapia (53 wRC+ | -3.5 runs), Urias (59 wRC+ | -3.4 runs), Brosseau (74 wRC+ | -2.5 runs) or Ruf (54 wRC+ | -1.7 runs) is a much larger (47.9 runs) credit.

    Good point, our young guys should be mich better. However addition by subtraction only works if the people who replace those ab's are better and currently the 2 additions are Bauer and Haase (I like Haase as the backup C) and that isn't much better.

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    2 hours ago, Rick Daltons Flamethrower said:

    I'll take a wait and see approach to this offseason. Strange unexpected things can happen. Look at what the Bucks did in getting Dame Lillard. Maybe some of that mojo will travel the brewers way. Hopeful and grateful.

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    LOL...kid says it all!

    I know I'm in the minority, but I feel good about the way this team is built now. I think there's a lot of young talent and you can either hold with Burnes/Adames and see what that young talent gives you, or trade them and build toward the future. 

    There's a lot of reason to keep them and I think it's as much about winning next year as it is about not pissing off the majority of the fanbase. I still hear complaining about Hader from Brewers Twitter. And while people may argue that shouldn't matter, of course it does. They're trying to get fans in the stadium. 

    6 hours ago, sveumrules said:

    I guess I'm just not that concerned about the offense at present. Contreras, Free Agent 1B, Turang, Adames, Black, Frelick, Chourio, Mitchell, Yelich (DH) would be a majority home grown opening day lineup that should be able to improve on last years results.

    As a team, the Brewers posted a 92 wRC+ and -61.4 batting runs. in 2023.

    Sure, losing Santana (107 wRC+ | +1.9 runs) and Canha (120 wRC+ | +5.0 runs) is a small (6.9 runs) debit.

    But not having Rowdy (78 wRC+ | -9.5 runs), Winker (65 wRC+ | -8.4 runs), Anderson (85 wRC+ | -6.5 runs), Voit (53 wRC+ | -4.3 runs), Singleton (-8 wRC+ | -4.3 runs), Taylor (88 wRC+ | -3.8 runs), Tapia (53 wRC+ | -3.5 runs), Urias (59 wRC+ | -3.4 runs), Brosseau (74 wRC+ | -2.5 runs) or Ruf (54 wRC+ | -1.7 runs) is a much larger (47.9 runs) credit.

    Really hoping for a Mitchell-Wiemer platoon in RF. Works well defensively with Frelick in LF and Chourio presumably in CF.

    So potentially:

    1) Frelick (104 projected wRC+) LF 2) Contreras C (120 wRC+) 3) Yelich DH (116 wRC+) 4) Adames SS (103 wRC+) 5) Santana 1B (104 wRC+) 6) Black 3B (104 wRC+) 7) Chourio CF (93 wRC+*a conservative projection*) 8) Mitchell/Wiemer RF (GM career 117 wRC+ vs RHP, JW career 115 wRC+ vs. LHP) 9) Turang 2B (88 wRC+) 

    That's an average to above average lineup that has the upside to be even better and would remain one of the best five or so defenses in the game. Why they traded a soon to be 30 year old Tyrone Taylor....

    Of course, I wouldn't fight the idea of adding Hoskins to this bunch, however unlikely that is....

    One name that I wouldn't be opposed to reuniting with is Josh Donaldson to hit against LHP. He seemed to blend in real well with this group, and I think we could use one more veteran, right-handed option in the IF with Black and Turang. I'm not a believer in Monasterio going forward. 

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    On 12/31/2023 at 10:16 AM, sveumrules said:

    I guess I'm just not that concerned about the offense at present. 

    If we still had Burnes and Woodruff anchoring the rotation, I agree, I wouldn't be as concerned.  

    But the odds are that Burnes is gone, and Woodruff is already gone.  Our pitching is going to be a giant question mark, no matter what fancy stats you throw against the wall.

    Our current offense (assuming Santana returns) is probably average at best.  Add that to a rotation in flux, (I mean we know for certain we aren't going to sign a big name free agent) and showing concern is a pretty normal reaction to this team as it sits for the 2024 season.

    21 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

     

    One name that I wouldn't be opposed to reuniting with is Josh Donaldson to hit against LHP. He seemed to blend in real well with this group, and I think we could use one more veteran, right-handed option in the IF with Black and Turang. I'm not a believer in Monasterio going forward. 

    If the price is right, this would make sense. 

    I am also not a believer in Moastereo as a key piece for a full season of 162 games.

    On 12/31/2023 at 2:33 PM, Rick Daltons Flamethrower said:

    I'll take a wait and see approach to this offseason. Strange unexpected things can happen. Look at what the Bucks did in getting Dame Lillard. Maybe some of that mojo will travel the brewers way. Hopeful and grateful.

    We have a habit of waiting until later Jan./Feb. for free agents and saving max amounts. However by then it is often the leftovers like Luke Voit from last year.

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    13 hours ago, Rick Daltons Flamethrower said:

    good point. My hope is not for a Voit but for a Rhys Hoskins or someone in the same ilk.

    Especially if we trade Burnes and Adames, that would be 25+ million saved. Hopefully that would mean we could spend 15-20 million and a decent free agent.



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