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    Scouting the Enemies: How the Rest of the NL Central Stacks Up to the 2023 Brewers


    Matthew Trueblood

    In the month leading up to Opening Day, we’ve looked closely at every aspect of the 2023 Milwaukee Brewers. Now, though, we need to put it all in context, and the most important way to do that is to carefully consider the other four teams in the National League Central.

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    The challenge here won’t be figuring out where to place the Brewers ordinally. The Cardinals are a narrow but clear favorite to win this division, and the hierarchy of the three teams trailing behind the Brewers is very clear. We do want to do two things that could be tricky, though. First, we should calibrate our expectations by estimating how close the Brewers are to being better than St. Louis. Then, we should assess how much of a fight the Cubs, Pirates, and Reds will put up, to get a sense of how many wins the Brewers might pile up in case they end up fighting for a Wild Card berth.

    Beating the Busch Bullies

    They’ve only won two of the last seven division crowns, but the St. Louis Cardinals still feel (and, perhaps, will always feel) like the hegemon of the division. They won the division fairly easily last season, running away from the Brewers down the stretch, and although they’ll miss all of Yadier Molina’s intangible value and the very tangible home runs Albert Pujols launched throughout the second half, they’ve more than replaced the lost production. 

    Willson Contreras will deliver considerably more punch behind the plate than the Cardinals have gotten from Molina any time in the last five years. The Cards’ answer to Jackson Chourio is Jordan Walker, a fast-rising outfield prospect with elite power who will break camp with the team and slot right into their thunderous lineup, which had two MVP-caliber cornerstones last year in Nolan Arenado and Paul Goldschmidt. Lars Nootbaar, Tommy Edman, and Brendan Donovan balance out those right-handers, and even their extra bats are fairly imposing.

    If that all sounded a bit too imperious and intimidating, though, take heart: there are lots of potential pitfalls for this team. While Oliver Marmol made a net favorable impression last year as a rookie manager, he lost much of his coaching staff, and one of the guys the team hired to replace the lost talent (Matt Holliday, who was slated to become the bench coach) abruptly changed his mind shortly after his appointment. It’s not yet clear that Marmol’s smiling, seemingly collaborative approach to his job is going to be a successful one. He had a manager-proof roster and clubhouse last year. That’s much less true now.

    It’s much less true, in part, because Contreras is a much better hitter than Molina, but nowhere near the same kind of leader or trusted companion to a pitching staff. Whatever noises he made about the Cubs being the problem after leaving them via free agency to sign with St. Louis, Contreras is a limited defender who doesn’t frame pitches well, call a great game, or manage difficult situations the way great catchers do. No one questions the sincerity or ferocity of his intentions, but he might never be capable of converting those intentions into impact.

    Nor are the team’s other dependable veterans as dependable as they might seem. Adam Wainwright has had a brilliant career, but its final season has begun with diminished velocity in both the Grapefruit League and the World Baseball Classic, and with a groin strain that will sideline him to open the season. Wainwright’s absence only exacerbates and illuminates the major weakness of this team, which is a thin and unimposing starting rotation. Rarely do teams with starting staffs this weak get past 90 wins. Goldschmidt and Arenado are a combined 66 years old, and they each slumped badly at the end of 2022. 

    The Cardinals aren’t invincible. They never are, really. They’re favorites in the division, but there remains room to rush past them and win the title. The Brewers just have to play to their own potential and take advantage if St. Louis stumbles.

    Let Ricketts Be Ricketts

    When the Brewers won the division in 2021, they did it in part by being the club who pressed the detonator button and completed the overdue implosion of the pseudo-dynasty the Cubs forged from 2015-20. The Crew went 15-4 against the ragged remnants of the championship team that gave them such fits over previous seasons. 

    Last year, alas, was a very different story. The Cubs took 10 of 19 from Milwaukee, and the six-game difference in the Brewers’ record against their top rivals was more than the gap by which they missed making the playoffs for a fifth straight season. 

    After an offseason spending spree that brought them new long-term fixtures at shortstop and in the starting rotation and some short-term help in the heart of the lineup, Chicago hopes it’s back in the periphery of the playoff hunt. They still didn’t spend as aggressively as they could have, though, and they didn’t make any significant trades to effect a real turn of the proverbial corner. The Brewers remain comfortably better than their nearest neighbors. This year, they just need to do a better job of proving it in direct confrontation.

    Will the Pirates’ or Reds’ Bright Futures Light Up Their Dreary Present?

    Now well into what will be long rebuilds, the Pirates and Reds are not dangerous to any team fighting for a playoff spot in 2023. The only shame for the Brewers is that they have 12 fewer contests against those two teams this season than they’ve had in each of the last several. As with the Cubs, though, it’s imperative that Milwaukee assert its superiority by actually seizing each opportunity to beat the have-nots. That affects their outlook when it comes to any Wild Card contest, because they’ll have to tangle with more of the tough teams in the American League in place of those should-be easy wins against Cincinnati and Pittsburgh.

    Nor will either of those teams roll over as easily this year as they did in the last couple. The Reds hope their young starting pitchers, whose eventual upside is something akin to what the Brewers enjoy now, take the expected steps forward in their second full seasons in 2023. Hunter Greene is the hardest-throwing starter in baseball. Nick Lodolo is a solid left-hander who could give the Brewers fits, and Graham Ashcraft is the kind of high-upside mid-rotation guy the Reds have missed even when they’ve assembled adequate top-end hurlers in recent years. Their positional depth is not yet ready to support that group consistently, but on any given day, they’ll be a more dangerous opponent.

    By contrast, the Pirates made some significant free-agent investments (by their standards) this winter, the better to support a big-league core that is getting close to respectability. They elected not to trade Bryan Reynolds, despite his request that they do so. Oneil Cruz will get a full season to prove himself as a shortstop and a dynamic slugger. Ke’Bryan Hayes could return to stardom with better health. We could see one or both of the team’s highly-touted catching prospects before the year is out, and the team already has a viable rotation and a sneaky-good bullpen, led by Team USA relief star David Bednar.

    Summary

    Instead of 76 games, the Brewers will only face the NL Central 52 times this year. That makes each of those head-to-head showdowns more important, not least because of the depressive effect that schedule shift could have on the team’s overall record. Still, in an absolute sense, it means that their division rivals will have a smaller impact on that record than in past seasons. As long as the team takes care of business the way it should, the Brewers will either succeed or fail this year based on how they do against their other opponents. Tomorrow, we’ll briefly check in on the rest of the NL, to further contextualize our expectations for the team.

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    1 hour ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

    The Cardinals are a narrow but clear favorite

    Are they? Should they be?

    I realize the Cardinals won the division last year but other than 1B and 3B, is Saint Louis clearly better than Milwaukee in any other area?
     

    We both have Contreras at catcher, so that’s a push? 🙂

    Pirates 64-98, they got a bit more interesting with Santana, Choi, and Cutch add a little stability and leadership but not a ton of upside. They could be +/- 5 games if Cruz lives up to potential or if he stinks.

    Reds 74-88, I wanted to switch the Cubs and Reds but couldn't. Lodolo, Greene, and Ashcraft have the stuff to be the best top of the rotation in the bigs in a few years (who knows if they can reach that potential). Add in some young infield talent they could be sneaky ok.

    Cubs 77-85,  The Cubs added a bunch of maybe's basically there entire pitching staff overachieved last year. They have some serious upside but I doubt any of there younger guys turn into all stars, Bellinger isn't likely turning back into an mvp candidate, and Swanson has been a below average SS until last year.

    Brewers 87-75  A lot depends on the bullpen to me. Our lineup should be better adding Contreras and Winker, and then the young guys getting a chance. However the pen is super worrisome to me.

    Cards 92-70  There lineup has ridiculous upside, especially if Jordan Walker puts up big numbers. There rotation is good enough to keep them in games and get to a top notch bullpen.

    In my opinion, to catch the Cards we need 2 hitters to be true middle if the order bats and have the young guys play well. On top of getting high quality late inning work from 2 or 3 guys not named Williams.

    14 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

    Are they? Should they be?

    I realize the Cardinals won the division last year but other than 1B and 3B, is Saint Louis clearly better than Milwaukee in any other area?
     

    We both have Contreras at catcher, so that’s a push? 🙂

    Not really, but the differences at 1B and 3B are huge. They make up for the better Brewer starting pitching.

    Both the Reds and Cubs should be better than last year and I suspect the race for second place will be a dogfight between them and the Brewers with a difference of less than 4 games.  The Cards are the favorite and they should be with a much better everyday lineup. For the Brewers to win the division they will need Burnes and Woodruff to have seasons similar or better than 2021 and with their current bullpen that may not be enough. With the change in scheduling the division winner may win only 85-86 games.

    6 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

    Both the Reds and Cubs should be better than last year and I suspect the race for second place will be a dogfight between them and the Brewers with a difference of less than 4 games.  The Cards are the favorite and they should be 

    Cubs lost 12 more games than the Brewers in 2022, the Reds lost 24 more games than the Brewers.

    I can squint and see how the Cubs could maybe challenge for 2nd, but I don’t see how the Reds added twenty plus wins this winter.

    I’d agree the Cards are the favorites after last year, but it’s by a pretty thin margin.

    FanGraphs has the Cards at 51% to win the division vs 39% for the Crew, but BPro has it flipped at 54% for MKE vs 38% for STL.

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    27 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

    Both the Reds and Cubs should be better than last year and I suspect the race for second place will be a dogfight between them and the Brewers with a difference of less than 4 games.  The Cards are the favorite and they should be with a much better everyday lineup. For the Brewers to win the division they will need Burnes and Woodruff to have seasons similar or better than 2021 and with their current bullpen that may not be enough. With the change in scheduling the division winner may win only 85-86 games.

    True the Cardinals have a really good every day lineup, but you should take a look at what they're going to try to throw out there for the rotation.

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    7 minutes ago, BlightyBrew said:

    Cardinals to win the division and it won't be close.

    While this wouldn't surprise me, the thought of it is kind of disgusting. I'm kinda hoping that team implodes, but I doubt it will. The only real issue I see for them is uncertainty in their rotation ... but they always kind of seem to be able to pull solid starting pitchers out of thin air, or convince some terribly-run teams to give them a few basically for free.

    That said, A LOT went right for the Cardinals to do what they did last year. The luck always runs out eventually.  

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    Entering 2018 the Central looked like a runaway. FanGraphs had it CHI (81%) STL (15%) MIL (3%) to win the division. As we all know, the Crew took it in 163 with the Cubs settling for the WC.

    Preseason 2019 was a little more even spread at CHC (47%) STL (26%) MIL (15%) and even CIN (7%) to win the division. Cards deployed their devil magic, Crew made the WC with a miracle run, Cubs flopped.

    Coming into 2021, Central was wide open at MIL (37%) STL (25%) CHI (19%) CIN (18%). Looked like it’d come down to the wire, so of course the Crew won it going away.

    By 2022 the FG computers were finally convinced on the Crew, giving them 72% division odds vs only 21% for the Cards. Naturally STL prevailed with a cushion.

    Best part about every new season for me are all the surprises in store. Pretending to know how every thing will turn out before it even begins seems like it would suck most of the fun out of things.

     

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    2 hours ago, sveumrules said:

    Cubs lost 12 more games than the Brewers in 2022, the Reds lost 24 more games than the Brewers.

    I can squint and see how the Cubs could maybe challenge for 2nd, but I don’t see how the Reds added twenty plus wins this winter.

    Agreed. The Reds should be better than last year but I think they're still solidly a fourth-place team at best. If a few things bounce in the correct direction for the Cubs, they could challenge the Brewers but I don't see the Reds doing so.

    I think the Pirates did more to get better than the Reds did. The Reds will be in the basement. I could see the Pirates finishing in 3rd. 

    Brewers/Cards feels like a tossup. 90 or 91 wins should be enough to take the division. The move to a more balanced schedule is going to expose the NL Central. I'll take the Cards because I think they will be more willing to make the deadline acquisitions needed to make a postseason push. Brewers win 85 and miss the playoffs. 

    The Cardinals rotation is not good at all. They are the worst in the league at missing bats, and feature 35-40 year olds and injury prone guys galore. For as much of an advantage they have at the plate, we basically make that up with our starting pitching. Which makes me think that the season will come down to how well our bullpen comes together before Devin. 

    There is also virtually zero chance that Arenado and Goldschmidt, in their early to mid 30s, both have career seasons again. 

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    Is it just me, or is this lineup not THAT good? I feel like Arenado and Goldschmidt will not be as good as last year. Goldschmidt had a career year at age 34 and Arenado had his best season if you remove the Coors factor(career 818 OPS on the road removes Coors factor, 2022 he was much better than that). I'm sure they'll be good, I see both guys falling in the mid 800s OPS range most likely...which is still very good of course. Aside from that, what here is scary? Walker has huge upside but otherwise a lot of low 700s or worse OPS players in 2022.

    3 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

    Is it just me, or is this lineup not THAT good? I feel like Arenado and Goldschmidt will not be as good as last year. Goldschmidt had a career year at age 34 and Arenado had his best season if you remove the Coors factor(career 818 OPS on the road removes Coors factor, 2022 he was much better than that). I'm sure they'll be good, I see both guys falling in the mid 800s OPS range most likely...which is still very good of course. Aside from that, what here is scary? Walker has huge upside but otherwise a lot of low 700s or worse OPS players in 2022.

    Their lineup is pretty legit as Nootbar I think is due for a big breakout (just look at his Statcast page). Then, you have O'Neil who is due for positive regression, though I doubt he's the MVP candidate he showed in 2021. And Contreras is a HUGE upgrade offensively over Yadi. Walker could easily be a ROY candidate.

    Those players will help cancel out some of the likely negative regression from Goldschmidt and Arenado. 

    But their starting pitching is absolutely atrocious. Verlander is high...

    59 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    Their lineup is pretty legit as Nootbar I think is due for a big breakout (just look at his Statcast page). Then, you have O'Neil who is due for positive regression, though I doubt he's the MVP candidate he showed in 2021. And Contreras is a HUGE upgrade offensively over Yadi. Walker could easily be a ROY candidate.

    Those players will help cancel out some of the likely negative regression from Goldschmidt and Arenado. 

    But their starting pitching is absolutely atrocious. Verlander is high...

    The Cardinals are incredibly deep positionally. Agree Nootbar is ripe for a breakout and O’Neil a better year.  Watching Arenado in the WBC and he seems primed to contend for an MVP.

    The positional advantage they have over us is greater than the pitching advantage we have over them.

    Also agree with owbc and see the Cardinals being willing to trade from their abundance of organizational positional depth at the deadline for pitching help if they need it.

     

     

    1 hour ago, SF70 said:

    The Cardinals are incredibly deep positionally. Agree Nootbar is ripe for a breakout and O’Neil a better year.  Watching Arenado in the WBC and he seems primed to contend for an MVP.

    The positional advantage they have over us is greater than the pitching advantage we have over them.

    Also agree with owbc and see the Cardinals being willing to trade from their abundance of organizational positional depth at the deadline for pitching help if they need it.

     

     

    Disagree. I think it’s about an even advantage. If Peralta stays healthy like 2021, that’s three big time strikeout arms that the Cardinals don’t have the ability to match at all. 

    On the position player side, I think our OF depth matches up pretty well with our prospects. Their OFs are obviously a little more proven but I think talent wise it’s even. 

    Catchers cancel each other out. 

    First base is advantage Cardinals, but it might not be by as much as we think with Rowdy and Goldschmidt set to regress in complete opposite directions.

    Second base is pretty dang even as Turang and Donovan have almost identical profiles, with Donovan being more proven at the MLB level. 

    SS is slight advantage Brewers as Adames and Edman are both elite defenders, but Adames possesses the higher offensive ceiling due to his power. 

    Third base is probably the biggest gap with Arenado being as great as he is, but Urias isn’t exactly a slouch and who knows if Arenado can repeat the season he had last year especially in that ballpark.

    And then DH is pretty even as well. 

    The Cardinals have great position player depth, but I wouldn’t say it’s that superior to ours. It’s just slightly more proven. 

    I think it’s going to come down to how the Brewers bullpen takes shape in bridging the gap to Devin. If we can get that figured out (Uribe?), I think we’ll be in good shape. 

    57 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

    Disagree. I think it’s about an even advantage. If Peralta stays healthy like 2021, that’s three big time strikeout arms that the Cardinals don’t have the ability to match at all. 

    On the position player side, I think our OF depth matches up pretty well with our prospects. Their OFs are obviously a little more proven but I think talent wise it’s even. 

    Catchers cancel each other out. 

    First base is advantage Cardinals, but it might not be by as much as we think with Rowdy and Goldschmidt set to regress in complete opposite directions.

    Second base is pretty dang even as Turang and Donovan have almost identical profiles, with Donovan being more proven at the MLB level. 

    SS is slight advantage Brewers as Adames and Edman are both elite defenders, but Adames possesses the higher offensive ceiling due to his power. 

    Third base is probably the biggest gap with Arenado being as great as he is, but Urias isn’t exactly a slouch and who knows if Arenado can repeat the season he had last year especially in that ballpark.

    And then DH is pretty even as well. 

    The Cardinals have great position player depth, but I wouldn’t say it’s that superior to ours. It’s just slightly more proven. 

    I think it’s going to come down to how the Brewers bullpen takes shape in bridging the gap to Devin. If we can get that figured out (Uribe?), I think we’ll be in good shape. 

    The Cardinals are 1+ years ahead of us in position prospect development. Nootbar & Donovan have established. Walker & Burleson have pushed Yepez & Gorman back to Memphis with Wyn a possible call-up late in the year. 

    O’Neil, Carlson, Edman, all in their prime, and then Goldschmidt & Arenado, who seem to have gotten better with age. Not close positionally. 

    14 hours ago, SF70 said:

    The Cardinals are 1+ years ahead of us in position prospect development. Nootbar & Donovan have established. Walker & Burleson have pushed Yepez & Gorman back to Memphis with Wyn a possible call-up late in the year. 

    O’Neil, Carlson, Edman, all in their prime, and then Goldschmidt & Arenado, who seem to have gotten better with age. Not close positionally. 

    Right, which is why I acknowledged they have an advantage. I just believe it’s closer than you think and is largely canceled out by the difference in the starting rotations.

    Though, I wouldn’t say Walker, Burleson are any more advanced than Wiemer, Frelick. Cardinals just decided to bring them up for opening day, while we opted to hold our guys down likely for service time manipulation. Winn could make an impact later in the season, but so could Chourio…

    O’Neil, Carlson, Gorman are also pretty big question marks still. 

    And I wouldn’t bank on Arenado and Goldschmidt repeating their career years, considering their ages (Goldschmidt especially) and over performance relative to their stat cast profiles. Just like we should never have expected our starting pitching to repeat their 2021 numbers heading into last season. 

     



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