Should the Brewers Re-Extend Freddy Peralta?

Agree, why add on unneeded future risk. If he was pitching better I would say sure but he is far from a sure thing long term.

NO

Odorizzi and Lynn - 13 seasons of 150+ innings combined

Freddy Peralta - Zero

Can't wait for the should we re-extend Ashby article to come out next!

5 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Can't wait for the should we re-extend Ashby article to come out next!

"With the 614th pick in the 2023 MLB Draft, the Brewers select...Jimmy Coalwinkle."

*10 minutes later*

Article: Should the Brewers Extend Jimmy Coalwinkle?"

All jokes aside, rumor has it this series ends with Christian Yelich. 

47 minutes ago, Outlander said:

I would certainly take a Peralta extension over Woodruff, big no on Woodruff. However, if they become sellers with Burnes and Woodruff, Peralta becomes a really good trade asset and don't need to lower that trade value.

He's been a below replacement level starter so far this season, and the Brewers have control of him for 3 more seasons.  There's nothing indicating he's a really good trade asset besides Brewers' homer sunglasses and an affordable contract to give him a long leash to reestablish himself as a reliable and quality starting pitcher - honestly Peralta's collective body of work and injury history to this point actually makes the initial extension he signed look like a good move for him and a financially foolish one for the Brewers despite of how team-friendly it's been perceived to be.  When the most valuable aspect of a player to an organization is the contract he's signed to and his best start remains his MLB debut about 5 calendar years ago, perhaps his on-field contributions are over-valued by that team because of it.

As folks have said above, hell no!

Freddy is 27 and the Brewers have him until 30. 

He's not getting any younger, his number are down, and he's been injured. 

I would not even remotely consider an extension. 

30 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

From 2020-22 there were 104 pitchers with at least 250 IP in MLB. Among that sample Freddy came in with a 76 ERA- (22nd), 72 FIP- (10th), 6.6 rWAR (43rd) and 6.8 fWAR (35th). All for less than 4 million dollars. No matter what happens from here on out, the contract is already a success from the team's standpoint.

He's struggled to start the year, no doubt, but he has provided much more value to the Brewers than just signing a team friendly extension.

 

 

Would you agree that most of the statistical value you presented in the above is heavily weighted towards his 2021 season, when he was making a legitimate case for Cy Young consideration through most of the year until a shoulder injury limited him down the stretch?  I'd also be curious to know where Peralta's 282 IP total from 2021-2023 seasons rank in that list of 104 pitchers.  

Don't get me wrong - that contract does carry value and the Brewers got the financial equivalent of equal  to excess value just by Peralta's 2021 season alone up to this point...but at the rate he's performing I'd say it's a coin flip for the Brewers to want to execute either of Freddy's 2025 or 2026 team options that carry an annual $8M pricetag - he's got to stay healthy AND be a better pitcher when healthy than he's been since the calendar rolled into 2022 to justify that future cost.

God no, that would be really dumb.

Maybe at least wait and see if Peralta ever has a season in his career where he qualifies before we start thinking of extensions.

I'm not overly worried about Peraltas somewhat rough start so far. His stuff is fine, velo is the highest it's ever been. Much of the difference is BABIP and HR/FB rates which are notoriously noisy. Which isn't to say it's only randomnes/bad luck that's behind his lack of success, but it definitely is a part of it. I don't expect him to be an ace going forward, but I think he'll be an above average starter for sure. 

That said, there is absolutely no reason to "re-extend" him yet. He's under team control for 3½ more seasons, two of them are team-friendly options. The nature of that contract means that the team will have a lot of leverage even a year or two from now to get a team friendly extension. There is no need to rush. See if that should really is, and stays, healthy. See if the above mentioned noisy stats do normalize or not. See if Ashby gets back fully, see what you have in Gasser and Rodriguez. Wait on a bunch of other things that'll affect the future outlook of the rotation. And then decide. 

For now, he's here cheaply for a bunch of more years.