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  • The Blockbuster Brewers Trade Possibility No One is Talking About


    Matthew Trueblood

    The Brewers have already made one trade to upgrade their infield and their lineup ahead of the MLB trade deadline. It was a low-wattage, short-term move, though. There's one potential game-changer the team could pursue, even though it's not a hot topic right now.

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    It's functionally impossible, at the moment, to predict what the San Diego Padres are about to do. They&# trades by frenetic head honcho A.J. Preller. Most pundits predict that they will stand pat, or even make small improvements in pursuit of a Wild Card berth.

    The Brewers could change their minds, if the price is right. With Brice Turang and Willy Adames, the team has stout defense up the middle, but they're getting lousy offensive production. At third base, Brian Anderson's injury setback means at least another fortnight of Andruw Monasterio, who has been perfectly cromulent but doesn't seem like a long-term answer, and who could even collapse down the stretch if his luck turns. The Brewers might just be eager enough to pull the trigger on a big infielder trade with Preller.

    Let us talk, then, about Ha-Seong Kim

    At 27 years old and on a team-friendly contract, Kim is a bargain. Even if he declines his side of a mutual option ion 2025, he can't become a free agent until after 2026. That's just the tip of the iceberg of his value, though. After a rough rookie campaign when he came over from the Korean Baseball Organization, Kim figured things out in 2022, and he's exploded into one of the most valuable and exciting players in baseball in 2023. He's batting .279/.374/.447 this year, with 14 homers and 21 stolen bases. He plays second base, third base, and shortstop, all with nearly equal aplomb. 

    According to Baseball Reference, only Shohei Ohtani and Ronald Acuna Jr. have been more valuable than Kim this year. FanGraphs is way down on him, ranking him only 11th in WAR. He is 46th in WARP at Baseball Prospectus, which takes his batted-ball data and granular level of competition into account more carefully, but even so, he's one of the better young players in baseball. 

    Why on Earth would the Padres trade him, then? It's pretty simple. Firstly, they're not good enough right now. That should be obvious, given their 52-54 record. Secondly, they're already running as high a payroll as they can afford to run, so their improvements have to come either completely from within, or via trades that deepen their farm system. Thirdly, they have Manny Machado, Xander Bogaerts, and Fernando Tatis Jr. all on long-term, huge-dollar deals, and none of those contracts would be movable right now, even if that were what the team wanted to do. Fourthly, with Machado and Bogaerts locked in on the left side of the infield, either Tatis or Jake Cronenworth (who's also playing on a long-term extension, signed this winter) could slide to second base if the team traded Kim, leaving a relatively easy offensive position to fill--be it right field or first base.

    Thus, getting a massive haul in exchange for Kim could be the next way out of trouble for Preller, whose back will be to the wall if he doesn't rapidly recover from this misstep of a season. He can do it without torpedoing his team's chances to sneak into the playoffs in 2023. It's worth exploring, from his end.

    For the Brewers, Kim couldn't be a more perfect potential addition. He could spell the struggling Adames, and get Turang out of the lineup against lefties, while being the primary third baseman for the next year and a half. Then, if Adames departed as a free agent, Kim could slide over to shortstop, creating a seamless transition. All along, he'd add some thump and some much-needed contact skills to the heart of the lineup, and he'd fit in with the running game the Brewers have already cultivated this season.

    There's just one catch: the massive cost. To make this the right button for San Diego to push, the Brewers would have to pay through the nose. We're talking about a package that starts with either Jackson Chourio or Sal Frelick, and includes Jacob Misiorowski, and it might not stop there. For three and a half cost-controlled seasons of one of the best infielders in baseball, that's a fair price. Sometimes, fair prices are excruciating. It will be understandable if, ultimately, Matt Arnold is unwilling to take that much pain, even in exchange for the massive gain Kim could offer.

    Eventually, though, the Brewers have to go for it. It's not just Adames on whom a ticking countdown clock toward free agency is getting louder by the second. Corbin Burnes and Brandon Woodruff are also just a year and a half from reaching that opportunity. Kim would be a short-term addition with the potential to put this team over the top, and he'd double as a flexible long-term option that would give them many avenues to perpetual contention. It might be a pipedream, but it's the pipedream worth studying seriously, because the circumstances that could force the Padres to consider it won't last forever, and neither will the Brewers' core.

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    I love the idea of having Kim on board, but probably not at that price.  And, to complicate matters, Kim just injured his shoulder, which may not be serious, but it’s a really bad time to have to evaluate him medically for a trade.

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    Ha Seong Kim has 2.5 years of control according to spotrac not 3.5 years of control. And the last year is a $7M mutual option which he’s going to decline, so in reality he has 1.5 years of control.

    Also lmao of course the Cubs fan thinks the Brewers should trade Chourio and Misiorowski and more for 3.5 years of Ha Seong Kim. Another incredible article on this website!

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    Kim would be nice but I wouldnt give up Chourio, Misi, or Quero. I would be ok with a solid package for him however my guess is the Pads would want an established player for him. A prospect package of Frelick, and 2 10-20 ranked prospect seems reasonable. I think maybe something based on a Burnes for Kim swap this summer might make more sense. The Pads could lose Snell, Lugo, and Wacha with Darvish going down hill they don't have much in there rotation after Joe Musgrove and little in the way of interesting upper minors arms.

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    10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

    Also lmao of course the Cubs fan thinks the Brewers should trade Chourio and Misiorowski for 1.5 years of Ha Seong Kim. Another incredible article on this website!

    This is lazy. Being a fan of another team doesn't mean he can't write sound articles. Disagree constructively.

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    7 minutes ago, Team Canada said:

    This is lazy. Being a fan of another team doesn't mean he can't write sound articles. Disagree constructively.

    Maybe this site should stop green lighting articles that’ are clearly just there to rage bait.

    Baseball Trade values which by no means is a perfect site has Misiorowski and Chourio’s combined value at $95M and Ha Seong Kim’s at $17M.

    Suggesting the Brewers would need those 2 and more to trade for HSK is a clear troll attempt from a Cubs fan and is the definition of lazy. 

     

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    35 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

    Ha Seong Kim has 2.5 years of control according to spotrac not 3.5 years of control. And the last year is a $7M mutual option which he’s going to decline, so in reality he has 1.5 years of control.

    Also lmao of course the Cubs fan thinks the Brewers should trade Chourio and Misiorowski and more for 3.5 years of Ha Seong Kim. Another incredible article on this website!

    I’m never gonna bicker with you about the Cubs fan thing. You’re free to think I’m a sleeper cell or whatever. 🤣

    But never, ever use Spotrac for baseball stuff. They don’t know what they’re doing. Kim can opt out of the deal he’s on ahead of 2025, but he’s still under team control through 2026. It’s like Ohtani, or Jorge Soler back in the day. They agreed on a contract knowing the player might opt out of it at some point, but then he just goes into the arbitration system. He didn’t come over as an unfettered free agent, like Senga or Suzuki or Tanaka.

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    38 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

    Kim would be nice but I wouldnt give up Chourio, Misi, or Quero. I would be ok with a solid package for him however my guess is the Pads would want an established player for him. A prospect package of Frelick, and 2 10-20 ranked prospect seems reasonable. I think maybe something based on a Burnes for Kim swap this summer might make more sense. The Pads could lose Snell, Lugo, and Wacha with Darvish going down hill they don't have much in there rotation after Joe Musgrove and little in the way of interesting upper minors arms.

    The Brewers can’t deal Burnes right now, though. Did you mean this *winter*? Because yeah, that starts to make some sense. Would be a very different but interesting deal.

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    23 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

    Maybe this site should stop green lighting articles that’ are clearly just there to rage bait.

    Baseball Trade values which by no means is a perfect site has Misiorowski and Chourio’s combined value at $95M and Ha Seong Kim’s at $17M.

    Suggesting the Brewers would need those 2 and more to trade for HSK is a clear troll attempt from a Cubs fan and is the definition of lazy. 

     

    Well, no it isn’t. But if you’re using BTV, like at all, then I understand why you and I aren’t seeing eye to eye on pretty much anything. If any site is for lazy people and trolls, it’s that one.

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    7 minutes ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

     

    Can you show proof of this? The only place I see him listed as having team control through 2026 is Baseball-Reference. Spotrac and Roster Resource both have him as a FA when his contract is up and I can’t find a single article saying he’s under control through 2026.
     

    HSK came stateside after 6+ years in the KBO and at 25 years old. So he didn’t sign through IFA bonus pool like Ohtani or Soler did who did not meet those qualifications.

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    13 minutes ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

    Well, no it isn’t. But if you’re using BTV, like at all, then I understand why you and I aren’t seeing eye to eye on pretty much anything. If any site is for lazy people and trolls, it’s that one.

    Which is why I said it isn’t perfect but even an incredibly flawed site can still show your hypothetical trade was absolutely a pathetic joke if the gap is $80M worth of value difference. 
     

    The Brewers would literally never consider Chourio for Ha Seong Kim straight up. Let alone Chourio, Misiorowski, and more. 

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    I personally find this trade quite impractical and highly unlikely to happen - for both teams for multiple reasons.

    BUT, for anyone who follows the broader MLB landscape one thing should be agreed upon here: Kim is a fantastic baseball player. Likely the MVP of the Padres season - what he has done since they made him their lead-off is remarkable. I still think he's a player most fans don't appreciate because the Padres lineup is stacked with big personalities and big names.

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    1 hour ago, Team Canada said:

    This is lazy. Being a fan of another team doesn't mean he can't write sound articles. Disagree constructively.

    He's got a point though.  If I'm a fan of another rival team in the same division, and I am writing an article about trade possibilities, of course I'd be all for trading my future studs out of the division.  This is not a personal issue with the writer, but having a Cubs fan as one of the contributing writers on a Brewers fan page is just not cool.  Quite honestly, I don't usually bother to read his takes on anything Brewers related because his viewpoints are tainted, how could they not be?  

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    Honestly I have to agree with critics of this trade, just focusing on the merits.  It would be folly to trade Chourio, who will likely make the Brewers roster in 2024, and just OPS'd 1.165 in July in AA.  Straight up for Kim, I wouldn't do that.  But adding more?  That makes zero sense, and the chances the Brewers would do that are zero.

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    1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

    Maybe this site should stop green lighting articles that’ are clearly just there to rage bait.

    Baseball Trade values which by no means is a perfect site has Misiorowski and Chourio’s combined value at $95M and Ha Seong Kim’s at $17M.

    Suggesting the Brewers would need those 2 and more to trade for HSK is a clear troll attempt from a Cubs fan and is the definition of lazy. 

     

    100% agree.

    Anyone thinking we'd have to give up Chourio alone for Kim is off their rocker, then you add in Quero and Misiorowski? That is absolute undeniable crazy talk.  Had this come from Clancy, at least I could consider the source, but this writer is a full blood Cubs fan.  Just can't take it seriously.

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    8 minutes ago, TURBO said:

    100% agree.

    Anyone thinking we'd have to give up Chourio alone for Kim is off their rocker, then you add in Quero and Misiorowski? That is absolute undeniable crazy talk.  Had this come from Clancy, at least I could consider the source, but this writer is a full blood Cubs fan.  Just can't take it seriously.

    I mean just so we’re clear, I didn’t even say the name Jeferson Quero in the piece. Not sure how that came into it. And I’d add that I *did* say either Frelick or Chourio, but folks seem much more hung up on the latter than the former. To me, they’re very close to equal in trade value, so the disparity is confusing. Anyway. Just a couple clarifications.

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    Kim signed as an MLB free agent (not amateur) so my understanding is he will become a free agent again once that option is declined.

    Even if he did have 3.5 years of control remaining, he doesn’t have a long enough track record of top shelf offense for me to consider him in a blockbuster Chourio/Misio package.

    If the Brewers were to deal those two (I don’t believe they would), I’d hope it’s for someone like Luis Robert or Jose Ramirez.

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    3 minutes ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

    I mean just so we’re clear, I didn’t even say the name Jeferson Quero in the piece. Not sure how that came into it. And I’d add that I *did* say either Frelick or Chourio, but folks seem much more hung up on the latter than the former. To me, they’re very close to equal in trade value, so the disparity is confusing. Anyway. Just a couple clarifications.

    Chourio is a consensus Top 5 prospect as a teenager on fire in AA.

    Frelick is a nice prospect no doubt (peak pre-season rank of #30) but he is at least one FV grade if not two behind Chourio, mostly on account of middling power projection and already being four years older.

    They aren’t an either/or comparison.

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    I think Kim is a better fit for the Cubs, and they should trade Crow-Armstrong, Horton, Ben Brown, Alcantara, Wicks, and then a few low level lotto tickets to bring him to the North Side.

    At least the title of this article is fitting...nobody really is talking about this "blockbuster" because there's nothing to it besides an opinion of a fan for a different team than the Brewers.

    Calling Chourio and Frelick comparable in terms of present trade value...yikes

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    12 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

    Kim signed as an MLB free agent (not amateur) so my understanding is he will become a free agent again once that option is declined.

    This is my understanding as well. The only place I see him listed as under control through 2026 is baseball-reference. I can’t find a single other place that has him under team control for 3.5 more seasons.

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    Nobody in baseball in the past 10 years have traded a prospect of Chourio's caliber outside of Yoan Moncada... And that was the notorious farm seller Dombrowski. It is just not happening especially for Ha Seong Kim. 

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    16 minutes ago, MilwaukeeBeers said:

    Nobody in baseball in the past 10 years have traded a prospect of Chourio's caliber outside of Yoan Moncada... And that was the notorious farm seller Dombrowski. It is just not happening especially for Ha Seong Kim. 

    Literally laughed out loud at this. I think this article has a lot more merit if you pull Chourio's name out of it completely. He's just not getting traded. He's probably the only prospect we have that's effectively off the table in all realistic trade scenarios.

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    5 minutes ago, KeithStone53151 said:

    Literally laughed out loud at this. I think this article has a lot more merit if you pull Chourio's name out of it completely. He's just not getting traded. He's probably the only prospect we have that's effectively off the table in all realistic trade scenarios.

    Yup haha tornadoes tear down farms slower than him. 

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    2 hours ago, Matthew Trueblood said:

    The Brewers can’t deal Burnes right now, though. Did you mean this *winter*? Because yeah, that starts to make some sense. Would be a very different but interesting deal.

    Yes, sorry thought I had that in there. Burnes for Kim based trade this offseason.

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    Not sure about this trade AT ALL. I mean, with Joey Wiemer's already elite flow and Corbin Burnes hopefully returning to his Cy Young hairdo, how can we be sure that the Brewers won't suffer from swag overload?

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