FVBrewerFan

The Brewers will not get to hang an extra banner for winning the division or World Series that notes "we also did this with a $55 million payroll." Dubon at his current state is probably not going to be a good MLB player. He's not hitting very well in Colorado Springs so I'm not expecting him to do much in 2018 in the majors. Villar is a giant risk. Dubon may be a good player in the majors (I'm not too high on him) but it probably won't be in 2018. Paying Neil Walker or a similar veteran does not cost any draft picks or prospects, likely does not block a great player for 1-2 years, and if Dubon or Hiura look great in 2 years, they can step in front of him a la Happ and others taking Ben Zobrist's time in Chicago. And before you make the "well Chicago has more to spend" comparison...this will likely be the only big ticket item along with a couple of moderate salaries for relievers for the next 2 years. There also aren't any banners for 80-82 teams. "Hey we were a tiny bit better with Walker in 2018." We don't know if Dubon can be a good player in 2018. He's hitting just fine in CS. We don't know if Villar can rebound. Not directed at you, but there's too many comments in here lately with such absolute certainty about a given player. Truth is, we don't know what Shaw, Thames, Pina, and most other players on the roster will do next year. Almost everyone not names Braun has a very short track record at the MLB level. To say Villar can't bounce back is an opinion, not a fact.

Villar played at an All-Star level for an entire season last year. That's not a hot streak for a month in 2014, that was for an entire season just last year. He's already shown signs recently of breaking out of his funk. Will he ever be close to the player he was in 2016? No, we don't know. But all the eggs wouldn't be in that basket, Dubon is an option. Not to mention other options they can pursue in the off-season. I hate to mostly be in Briggs' camp, but I am kinda on his side here and I'm a Villar fan. Not sure I agree that Walker will come so cheap, but there is some considerable risk at 2B next season and possibly 2019. Dubon looks like a younger version of Hernan Perez (that may be optimistic). I think Villar can sort it out but there is also a strong chance that he's going to put up another .680 OPS season with a ton of Ks in 2018. If Neil Walker signs a 2/$25 million deal and becomes a glorified infield utility guy with some pop because Villar catches fire and returns to 2016 I will not mind one bit. I say that above sentence because the chances are probably greater that Villar struggles or Dubon is just a guy and Walker is a 3-4 WAR player for 2 seasons. I'm willing to take that "risk" because looking at the Brewers' payroll and current roster, there is literally no risk. This is another case of no right/wrong, just how you look at it. I don't want any more stop-gaps unless absolutely necessary, and cheap. I would have preferred a tear it down rebuild, but they are locked in to rebuilding yet having a competitive team at the same time. So while I get that, I still lean towards rebuilding. Villar or Dubon may not be the answer. But if they are, they're the answer for several more years. in the case of Dubon, at least 6 more years. Finding out if either is the answer at 2B is more important to me right now than a couple more win shares for Walker.

Villar played at an All-Star level for an entire season last year. That's not a hot streak for a month in 2014, that was for an entire season just last year. He's already shown signs recently of breaking out of his funk. Will he ever be close to the player he was in 2016? No, we don't know. But all the eggs wouldn't be in that basket, Dubon is an option. Not to mention other options they can pursue in the off-season.

Yea, at least one from that group will be on IR, someone will get stashed there.

Broxton had a stretch of games a while back where he was horrible. Flat out missed a few balls. I still think he's an average at best starting C.F., but not as bad as that stat implies.

Innings factor in. Absolutely no way can Hader be a SP from wire to wire next season. Thats why I feel Wilkerson gets the nod, and maybe by June or so Hader can be added to the rotation.

Wouldn't surprise me if they continue to carry 13, they may shuffle who those 13 are a bit. But with the off days, a couple pitchers capable of going more than one inning, etc. I think they stick with 12 pitchers. Plus, closing in on the end of the year means you ask starters to go deeper if they're pitching well, have that reliever throw an extra inning, etc. Not there's no more concern about limiting innings on everyone's arms, but that does get more relaxed for the stretch run.

As someone who was at "Hello Kitty Night" a couple weeks ago, I completely agree. Not even close to jumping the shark. I'm neither a fan of GoT or Hello Kitty. But for all those who are, it's a good way to attract casual Brewer fans, or even people who aren't fans at all. These give-away days are still huge.

Nelson Anderson Davies Woodruff Wilkerson Garza in camp, just in case they have an injury or two, but barring injuries I don't see him on the roster again. Close call, but I'll say no. Jungmann down in AAA along with Guerra, either or both could get a shot at some point during the season. Then there's Burnes.

That would fit the trend. Anyone who would be exposed to Rule 5 after this season.

Briggs being Briggs. He likes the attention. Loves to drop a crazy post, and almost never responds when proven wrong. Hit and run. Seems to always hate the GM, Manager, and a lot of players so not sure why he's a fan.

And Chad Moeller hit for the cycle. It happens. Anyone can have a big night. Even a big month or chunk of a season. I'll wait longer than a couple weeks to see if this was a good trade or not. Question is, what could have been done differently with Cooper? Nobody has answered that.

Yea move Thames so you can platoon two RB 1B who cant play any other position.

Very simply, it's the back-up QB effect. Mark A, Stearns, and CC should always be doing something different. Mark A is stupid for throwing around money on aging vets, now he's cheap. Stearns is praised for rebuilding, now scorned for not making enough deals for a .500 team. Some people have never agreed with a single pitching change CC has ever made. The beat goes on. If someone believes they should have, or still should be, buyers that's fine. But this continual sniping at management sounds like a hot take on the Jim Rome Show or something.

Blazek, Espino, and Drake are still on the 40 man. Wouldn't blink an eye if any of them are replaced.

Has been for the entire season. Hasn't made him do a dang thing other than find a couple secondary bullpen arms that are eh, other than Swazak so far. Don't expect a thing to be done other than MA to count the money rolling in from the attendance this season. Yes!!! I agree, I sure hope you're right.

Did someone say something about "desperate measures????" Hey, Stearns, you have my number. http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/mlb/players/full/6218.png&w=350&h=254

Well, yea. Let's remember this team wasn't built to make a run for the WS this year. But he added pieces like Thames and Shaw to at least put a competitive team on the filed, and see what happens. And I don't think that has changed. As bleek as it looks today they're still 1 1/2 games out. Maybe the bats come around, maybe they don't. But these threads had dozens of pages about acquiring a SP. Now it has turned to a bat, as though nobody ever wanted a pitcher. Truth is, would adding a Kinsler change anything? Really? Anything is possible I guess, but I don't think so. I get there's emotions involved. I turned off the game a couple times during these Twins games myself. Easy to have cries of "Do something! Anything!" But when that something doesn't make sense, never a good idea to make a move just for the sake of making a move.

Isn't it about time for the old pick the line-up out of a hat routine?

Except the guys he would replace are .850 hitters, hence the reason he was traded in the first place. Plus neither has a creature. Although one of them does let a ball sail 30 feet over his head occasionally.

That's how I see it. I can't imagine economic impact would be a net positive for Spring Training or probably even most minor league facilities. I do think major league stadiums have a positive economic impact for the area around the stadium specifically, and the community in general. As others have said though, very hard to quantify.

The ironic thing is that Scooter was considered too limited at 2B, not enough power/speed, and now Scooter has 20 plus HRs while we are seemingly stuck with Villar on our roster wwithout a great option at 2B. Scooter plays PT, benefits from playing at Great American, and is hitting .551 OPS vs LHP. I said at the time I thought it was a bad idea to let him go. At the same time I understood the logic, and still do. Scooter is a platoon 2B, and that's really hard to justify on a 25 man roster. Sure they wish they had him now, that happens.

Those of you following the system longer would know better, but seems to me the bats in lower minors (DSL, AZ, Helena) are the loudest they've ever? been.

Smells like Drake Time!!!

He did, then took off when it got past mauer