One interesting note is that Gamel actually has a better SLG and OPS than Counsell and an OBP only 4 points lower. Off of the top of my head a optimized Brewers lineup would probably look like Gamel Fielder Hardy Braun Cameron McGehee Hart Pitcher Kendall I really like to split up lefties and probably wouldn't bat Gamel and Fielder back to back. Of course this would all change wildly depending on how any given person would evaluate the players. My opinion is that the hitters in order from best to worst are Fielder, Braun, Gamel, Cameron, Hardy, McGehee, Hart and then Kendall. I think Hart and McGehee are really hard to peg down on where they really lie in regards to their hitting talent. McGehee has put up better numbers this year by far than in any of his minor league seasons. That is with playing the better part of the last 3 years in AAA. Hart has one really good year, one really bad year and then the year. Edit: I think I should also add that a traditional lineup is pretty close to optimal and almost as good. There are only a few things that can really ruin a lineup. One of them, and probably most important, is not playing your best players. The other is batting your worst hitter high in the order. I think it might actually be better to bat a pitcher leadoff since they are usually out of the game after 2-3 AB.(Not my idea really. Read it over at Tango's website. Kind of makes sense though) Then you can gain the platoon advantage in that spot.