Can you point out the 6+ great seasons that Rice had, using your cut off of 150 games? I would argue that Rice had a 3 season peak and had other valueable seasons that range from goodish to very good. [/] I never said that Rice was HOF worthy. Raines career OPS+ is actually higher than Dawson, who only has a 119+. I would be curious which 6+ years you consider to be Dawson's great seasons in which he played 150 games or more. Well, let's start with the MVP season and the two years he finished #2 (Raines never finished higher than 5th). Then add in the five other years he was an All-Star, then add in the year he finished 7th in the MVP voting. So how about nine great seasons. Second, Raines career OPS is inflated by his walks, which is inflated by his lack of height and crouched batting stance. It was Dawson's job to drive in runs, not walk, thus he didn't get on base as much, but still scored or drove in 400 more runs than Raines in his career. No one has ever walked their way into the HOF, and no one ever will. Dawson had 1000 more total bases than Raines in his career. Eight times Dawson finished in the top 10 in power/speed ratio, and is #8 all-time in that department; Raines did it only four times. Dawson was also a better defender - he won eight Gold Gloves; Raines won none. This is getting old. Over 75% of the writers do not think Raines is HOF worthy, and they are not an uninformed group. You are in the minority on this one. Like I said, had Raines extended his greatness into his 30's he would be in, but he flamed out after the age of 27, and that is what is keeping him out.