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2018 Pitching (Rotation and Bullpen)
JohnBriggs12 replied to BrewCrewBlueDevil's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
You could be right but I doubt it. I believe he's still around in hopes he can be useful in a deal. He's had a number of chances and he's 28. The Brewers have likely moved on. The fact he didn't get a call up in September after a fine AAA season proves it. -
Is Woodruff now a viable trade chip?
JohnBriggs12 replied to JohnBriggs12's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I'm not surprised by some negative reaction, but really? If all it took was Ortiz, or a low level arm to land a middle of the rotation starter with at least 2 years of control, don't you think it would be done? To get a guy that can really help, it's going to take giving something back that actually hurts, not guys like Broxton, Villar and your 6th or 7th best pitching prospect. The jury is still out on Woodruff after a decent but not dazzling 8 major league starts. To get them over the hump in the next couple years, a more proven guy would make sense, while preserving studs like Hader and Burnes. I just threw out Odorizzi as an example. Insert your choice: Duffy, Corbin...etc. Not nearly enough back? Expand it. Duffy and Merrifield for Woodruff and Villar for instance or go for an Archer or a Stroman with Woodruff as part of a package. As usual most of you missed my point which was the addition of two starting pitcher value FA opens the door for discussion of using Woodruff in a deal. If you think he's a future ace or number 2 starter and can perform now as no worse than a solid #4, then you hold on to him almost at any cost, but if you see a guy who eventually will establish himself 2 or 3 years from now as a middle of the rotation guy, but is now more of an average at best 4 or a 5 (as I am inclined to), then by all means he can be discussed. Last year showed the window can open at any time and can close just as quickly. -
In addition to those 16 quality starts, he had 5 others where he went at least 5 innings and allowed 1 run or less. You could make an argument that he had 21 quality starts.
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As a Rockie, Chacin had better splits at Coors than he did on the road. I remember the game he pitched against the Brewers last May. It was easily one of the most dominant performances against the Crew all year. They didn't record one line drive in 7 innings. He fanned 8 and got 12 GB outs over 7 innings. Brewers scored in the first on a walk and two ground ball singles to the first 4 hitters. Then he retired the next 19 Brewers, before finally issuing a walk with 2 outs in the 7th. Then he fanned Broxton and called it a night. When he's right, it doesn't matter where he pitches. He allowed 157 hits in 180 IP and fanned 153. He was a bargain. Kudos to Stearns. My only issue is why didn't they pursue him at the deadline? He was 4-0 in July with a 2.51 ERA, and he posted a 3.25 ERA in 11 starts in August and September. He just might have made the difference.
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Exactly. Pirates likely have priced him as if he just put up those numbers. It wouldn't surprise me he suddenly finds it in NY though. Cole strikes me as a guy who loses focus at times and starts leaving pitches over the middle of the plate. Playing in NY in that atmosphere will help his focus.
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Yankees are reportedly zeroing in on Cole but I wouldn't put it past them. Price for Archer is high, or he'd be a Cub by now. I think they'd rather hold on to him than lower their price.
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Shouldn't this be in blue? He's been in the big leagues since 2006 and he's 33. He was very solid with Yankees from 2010-2013 and led the league in appearances in 2012. Colorado signed him to a 3 year deal as a FA in 2014, but he struggled his first year there. Split time between AAA and big leagues with Cleveland last year. His FIP is usually better than his ERA. He's maintained a K per 9 innings at 11 or better since 2012. Overall, solid LH veteran. We can only hope this means Drake won't be needed any longer though Logan's splits against LH hitters isn't especially strong so not a pure Loogy.
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The recent additions of veterans Gallardo and Chacin to shore up the back end of the rotation, leads me to think that Woodruff, who heretofore had been conceded a rotation spot and thus not a name being brought up as a trade chip, might be the best guy to use to get a more established starter. Remember that Woodruff's outstanding career debut came against the Rays, who at the very least have Odorizzi available and might consider dealing Archer. Most proposals for acquiring that established controllable starter have included arms the Brewers have at mid to upper levels of the minors and that made sense because Woodruff's presence in the rotation was needed. Perhaps a guy who's already made the big leagues like Woodruff is more attractive to teams like the Rays that can just plug him in on a team in the early stages of a rebuild. Now with the likes of Chacin in the 3rd or 4th spot and addition of a proven starter like Odorizzi, they'd still have Suter, Guerra and Gallardo to battle it out for 5th spot. If your the Brewers and think eventually you prefer Hader, Burnes, Peralta over Woodruff, does it make sense to sacrifice him now straight up for say 2 years of Odorizzi? As I pointed out in a different thread, the top 3 guys in the Brewer rotation heading into next year had a combined record of 42-23. If you add Odorizzi as the 4th member, that goes to 52-31 for the top 4.
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Susac, Webb and Baker would be most vulnerable. If it was me, I'd add Drake to that list.
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Anyone else losing their patience?
JohnBriggs12 replied to Madhawk23's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I'm getting a bit antsy about re-signing Walker, adding more quality to the pen and they still have some extraneous pieces they need to move, but at least they've added rotation options. So if upgrades present themselves anywhere, that's great. It looks as if Stearns is in opportunistic mode and he'll wait until Walker agrees to 2 years instead of his desired 3 or 4. He has until the season starts though so no need to panic. -
Indians To Sign Yonder Alonso
JohnBriggs12 replied to MadThinker88's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
There goes my idea of seeing if they'd have interest in Thames. -
1. Anderson 2. Davies 3. Chacin 4. Woodruff 5. Suter/Gallardo/Guerra/Wilkerson Wild Cards: Hader and Nelson The top 3 were a combined 42-23 last season.
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He slots in the 3 spot for now. The top 4 appear set. The 5th spot is up for grabs right now. At least 3 guys in the mix there: Guerra, Gallardo, Suter and possibly more. They could still slide Hader in there too. I still think they could deal for a guy like Archer too.
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If you look at his splits throughout his career, you have to conclude the guy just doesn't respond to the wear and tear of travel all that well. Brewers spend a lot less time traveling than do Padres.
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I would guess that Chacin gets a 3 year deal, in the range of $25-30 million total. By today's standards, that's a bargain and will make him marketable in a year or two.
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Don't fret. Suter still is a near lock to make the team as a long reliever and has an excellent shot to take the 5th starter spot if Hader stays in the pen.
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Quoting MLBTR on Chacin: "he's been a durable mid-rotation arm over the past two seasons and should help stabilize a group that carried significant questions.....Chacin enjoyed success earlier in his career in the game's worst pitching environment, Coors Field." "Statcast pegs Chacin's exit velocity on balls in the air (91.3) and overall exit velocity (85.4) among the weakest in the game for qualified pitchers. His .303xwOBA, while not elite, places him alongside names like Danny Duffy, Jake Arrieta, and Madison Bumgarner." If he comes at a reasonable price, what's not to like?
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Chacin was 5-3 with a 3.33 ERA in the 2nd half. His road splits were skewed by two starts early in the year where he allowed 14 runs in 6 2/3 innings and his BABIP against was .353 on the road. That had nothing to do with the park. His ERA at home for his career is more than a half run better than on the road, and that includes a long stint for the Rockies. The guy simply pitches better when he sleeps in his own bed, regardless of where that is. He dominated the Brewers last May, fanning 8 and allowing just 2 hits and one run in 7 innings. He won 13 games for a last place team. Chacin is a solid 3-4 starter who might be a great value play. Per B-R, he's a career 17.9 WAR pitcher, including 2.4 last year. IF he does sign, chances are the rotation will be Anderson, Davies, Chacin, Woodruff and hopefully Hader and not Gallardo.
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Martinez hits most of HR to CF and RF. He's not a great fit in Boston. That doesn't mean they won't sign him, but it'll be at their price. On the other hand, those tend to be the power slots in Miller Park. But there's other alternatives the Brewers could look at if they get a good offer for Santana. The teams looking at Martinez might be the ones to talk to about Santana once Martinez is signed. Padres are another team on prowl for bats if they don't get Hosmer and they have some bullpen pieces in Hand and to a lesser extent Yates that are attractive. If I'm Stearns, I'd be sniffing around the market for Avisail Garcia. He's supposed to be on the market and if the Brewers take him off it, it might up the demand for Santana.
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What's left for pen options?
JohnBriggs12 replied to Madhawk23's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
You could be right but he hasn't earned the role of setup man going into the season. He's been way too inconsistent and he'll be what 28 or 29 next year? Not saying it won't happen but it needs to soon or he'll be just a guy. -
As inconsistent as he was, Barnes is still part of the pen core.
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Totally agree. They'd be nuts to mess with him now. Huh? Chris Sale had 79 relief appearances before making his first major league start. Was making him a starter "messing" with him? Hader has 95 professional starts and was very successful in that role. Returning him to a starter role is a move that will happen. It's simply a matter of when. He's probably the lone guy in the system with true ace potential. Let's wait and see what the roster looks like two months from now. It's likely to be completely different. Gallardo is a candidate to start. He's by no means a lock. They took a flyer on him because the price was right. They were going to bring in a value FA or two regardless of the plans for Hader as they only have 3 secure rotation spots, and that's only if you consider Woodruff secure. He's likely assured of starting the season in the rotation, but if he struggles, he can be optioned. No way is he guaranteed a rotation spot no matter what for an entire season. For all we know, Stearns has a trade offer out for Brad Hand, or some other top reliever and he's waiting for the market to come to him.
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The only way this could happen would be if the Brewers also agreed to take on Tomas and his remaining contract ($46 million over 3 years) and added a prospect to the deal. D-Backs have huge financial constraints and unloading Tomas would be a tremendous incentive. If he's healthy Brewers would hope he returns to his 2016 form which was pretty similar to Santana's 2017. They could move Archie Bradley back into the rotation. They also could give former Brewer farmhand Anthony Banda a long look. Ray had a great 2017, but was 14-31 with a 4.67 ERA before that. He's not without risk.
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Where is this notion that "we are sitting out this year" coming from? It's December. I get that they passed on the higher price relievers but they are involved in negotiations with lots of teams about starting pitching and all the top FA are still out there. Is it the talk about dealing Santana? My take on that is they have a plan to add a FA bat and get major league talent in return for Santana. How is that construed as "taking a year off"? Certainly if they were to add Realmuto, that's not "taking a year off" even if Santana was the trade chip. The FA crop has quality bats in it. How about dealing for Realmuto and signing JD Martinez?
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You are reading too much into the Yo signing. Yo's a place holder at best until either Nelson returns or they decide to go with a young arm to fill that spot at mid season. I'm guessing they've decided since the market for relievers is too rich right now, that Hader starts the year in the pen, but they'll be bullpen arms available in July and if Nelson's not back yet, then they could make the move to Hader starting in midseason. I still think they'll either add a FA like a Cobb or deal for a controllable starter, and let Suter and maybe a few other guys battle Yo in spring training for #5 spot.