liveforoctober

I'm not too proud to start the convo. What kind of trade package do you think this would require?

I wonder what the Yankees would give us for Cortes? (Blue)

I do understand what you are saying but the Yankees made the World Series and Cortes had the 5th highest WAR (and top pitching WAR) on the team. So the Brewers either get a #3+ starter in a contending year (we will see how valuable that ends up being ) or as long as he pitches to career norms - we get a small haul of prospects to add to the bucket at the deadline. So I see what you are saying, but the rest of that trade has to be a full part of the convo IMO.

Just really pleased with Quintana. I really wanted Miley back, but this is great too. Theoretically it re-establishes the floor of what the staff will do this year. The young arms are going to be needed at some point and it's exciting, but IF they implode this limits the number of innings in which they do so. At this price this is a high five of a signing. Hopefully it all works out.

I say this as respectfully as possible, but your interpretation of this quote makes me think you have never played or coached at a high school level or higher program before. The reason I say this is because people respond differently to different styles of coaching and a good coach recognizes that and delivers it. For some people to maximize their potential they need to have an arm around their shoulder and to be told they are doing amazing when they are down. Other people need to be doubted and challenged in those moments, etc I'm not saying you are wrong - but if I read this quote independent of everything else ... my take on it is that Murphy has identified how he feels Black can be most successful and is operating in that manner.

Appleton is going to have a fun roster to start the year. If Made climbs his way up there at any point the TRats will be must see if you are a prospect hound.

Yeah I am not giving that rhetoric 4 seconds of consideration.

I can't speak for the moderators... But I'll offer you my opinion based on the years I've floated around here. Amongst the moderators' main jobs are to keep this community enjoyable for all. That means a lot of things.. but an example is cleanliness. If the Brewers had traded Devin Williams and 16 different people started a brand new thread about it... It would become very messy to follow along with and to consume for everyone. They merge similar topics and convos together to keep the board clean and navigable. If you've had a post moved.. this is likely why. Perhaps before starting a new thread, check to see if people are already talking about it elsewhere and just add to that conversation rather than starting a whole new thread about the same topic. A second aspect of upkeep I've noticed is the "loud voice in the room" syndrome some folks can acquire from time to time. These boards are meant to be a conversation amongst a community, I believe. Everyone has the right to an opinion and should have a chance to share it. When one poster is responsible for a majority of posts/comments/words in a thread, it stops being a conversation and starts being a lecture. That is harmful to the purpose of these places. If you are having posts removed and are not sure why... Perhaps reflect to see if what you are posting is moving a conversation forward or if you are just venting the same fact/opinion over and over again and are stalemating topics. This is just an opinion. I could be wrong. Only the moderators could say for certain why they are organizing.

It's like being hit by a car driven by your best friend? Holy smokes dude. Attanasio's first job is to hire the right guy who curates a team to win the World Series. Arnold is a good one. Attanasio's main job is to run a successful baseball operation as a whole. Arnold is the one who has the job to win the World Series. Attanasio is a support to that. We would be far worse off with a Jerry Jones-like operation.

Definitely a misleading title ... I'd be curious what he weighed at the start of ST last year vs this year. With that said his arms do look jacked in the photo posted with the article. If Sal can add a little pop to his bat and his peripherals don't suffer because of it ... what a solid player to have on the roster.

I'm not putting any marbles in this basket, but there exists a world where Abner Uribe is a big piece of our bullpen this year. I believe he would qualify as overlooked heading into the year.

Dang, not at all what I said. I was speaking in generalities. I try to offer an olive branch and it still gets turned on me. I am not sure you and I speak the same language unfortunately. Lot of lost in translation going on. All good man, take care.

This is going to shock you ... but I'm 100% on board with Dejong AND if he ends up signing elsewhere for a fair contract I would stand with you in disagreement. I think we could use a vet on that side with a high enough offensive floor, Dejong seems to fit us right now really well. Generally speaking re: our bickering ... it isn't about who is right and wrong and who is the better/worse fan ... it is about furthering conversation. I say all of this almost as a 'thank you' for the DeJong suggestion, I have been hoping for a specific suggestion from you ... if you have more specific moves or people you want the Brewers to look at or if you have specific examples of guys they didn't move on in years past (that we know they could have) that have caused you to sour your outlook .. I genuinely want to hear them. I'm here to discuss Brewers baseball and learn, both good and bad. Personally, I just don't have much time for empty convo or the small talk around it. I think DeJong is a great fit.

Respectfully, the fact that there are so many negative grades on the off season from posters here and the fact no one else is getting heat for those opinions should give you pause on how you participate on these boards and why you are responded to differently. Differing opinions are welcome, negative opinions are welcome. Why is it different for you? If I responded to every one of your posts with the exact same GIF of a guy beating a dead horse with a stick... It wouldn't take long before you called me a troll. But that's exactly what your account is becoming. Clicking on your profile and looking at your post history... 95% of your posts in the last two months have been the exact same thing. Brewers FO isn't trying, Mark A is cheap, the fan base is delusional. Regardless of the topic at hand. We've locked two threads in the last two weeks+ because of this. Self reflect.

We are going to have this same convo, huh? Can we just start a thread dedicated to a certain poster so we don't have to do this in every conversation moving forward?

Thanks for all of this work and effort. I am also a bit perplexed at the overall drop. We didn't have Devin for half the year, so our bullpen numbers from last season include that. Moving from Rea -> Cortes is also a full 1 win bump. A healthy Mitchell, a healthy Yelich (knock on wood both) ... I am also very bullish that the Hoskins/Black combo will greatly outperform the Hoskins/Bauers combo from last year. I am not mad at a projected step back, but the tumble that is predicted doesn't compute for me.

I saw this on Twitter. It's days leading the division since 2020.

194 responses to this thread and 74 of them are from one person. Maybe we should consider locking and deleting this one and moving on with our lives lol. Go Crew.

The Brewers must not have loved the medicals? Miley said he wanted to stay here and it did seem to make sense for us, especially on a MiLB deal :(

Ok! Now finally some answers. After repeatedly asking you to provide one solution you finally come through and say we need the guy who gave Deshaun Watson his contract, arguably the worst contract in the history of professional sports.

A lot of folks are openly critical about many aspects of the Brewers org. Have you ever visited a game thread? There's more negative than positive in those threads. The reason you are being fought against by the entire message board right now is because you STILL have yet to present a single fact or solution to anything you are saying. You are crossing your arms and saying "I don't like it and you can't make me" and all anyone has asked you repeatedly is to provide any kind of proof that the Brewers FO doesn't have the Brewers best interest in mind. One thing. Provide one thing.

Frelick

Ok! We are getting closer. You are not upset at lack of spending, you are not upset at their lack of trades in volume... you are upset that the Brewers have not traded from organizational depth to obtain future MVPs (Contreras withstanding obviously, yes?) and that is the reason why they are gaslighting us by telling us they are trying to compete for championships. This is actually a pretty good idea. Trade from the minors to get future MVPs on our team. Can you find any players from our current minor league depth you would trade and which soon to be MVPs you would target?

Absolutely. That's why I'm excited to hear your thoughts. I guess I also needed to put some of that response in blue. You have said multiple times in other threads that you know Milwaukee can't spend the money of bigger markets, so we know that isn't your issue. You've mentioned trading from organizational depth to bolster the roster and when it was mentioned the Brewers do it repeatedly your response was that they are trading them at the wrong time with disadvantageous value and you have said you are tired of this happening year after year. So that means we are expecting it to happen again this year? I would love to hear which pieces of our organization you would trade today and to whom and for what if you have any ideas? Being a 20/20 vision fan of the past is not a great trait but if you can have the vision for the future you can be an asset to the team! What are your thoughts?

You're timing is just so strange man.. We are not even 2 months removed from Matt Arnold being named MLBs Executive of the year. They looked around all of baseball and pointed at Milwaukee and said "no one is doing it better than that guy" ... How lucky are we as a fan base that we have the Executive of the year AND one of our fans on the message boards can do the job better... Golden age of Brewers baseball.