There is the starting 8 plus Counsell and Rivera plus 12 pitchers. I don't have any strong sense of what will happen with pitching other than they'll probably keep a potential mid-season starter with an option like Green in AAA to keep him ready to go and working on things. That leaves 3 spots. Duffy sounds like he's leading the consideration for one spot. Nelson, Iribarren and Gwynn are all out of options (correct?), so they might have a bit of an edge over other choices. Gwynn sounds like he might have surgery. I don't know if that gives the team a way to stash him away, but I don't think he has a chance to be on the opening day 25. Maybe they can put him on the 25, but on the DL though. I don't think they'll keep better prospects on the bench rather than playing regularly, so I'd guess no Gamel, Esco, LoCain or Angel. That leaves Hernan, Big Brad, Trot who sounds like he's scuffling, and Casey McGehee. Who am I forgetting? I guess if I had to call it, I'd say Brad and Casey get the last two spots.