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True, but then you're essentially making the ump make a type of "judgment call" - the kind of thing many sports try to eliminate for officials. Aside from that, an ump could easily get into trouble with the league for using "common sense" and ignoring a blatant infraction of the rules - intentional or not. Good luck explaining that one as the ump to the opposing manager... "Yeah, they made a mistake and violated a rule, but since I think they meant this, it's ok....." I think the coach would also get into trouble with the league for the fit he'd throw after the fact. Unless the league made a rule change to specifically state that in the case of a clear mistake, the ump has the authority to allow the "typo" to be fixed and to allow the game to progress as normal, it's not gonna happen. That said, I do agree with you, I just think that it's hard, especially at the major league level, to ignore a violation of a rule (intentional or not). As one last note, this is where "preventive officiating" could come into play - I wonder if there is a way the ump could get the lineup cards before they technically need to be turned in? That way, if the ump does see a mistake, the coach still has time to fix it and resubmit the lineup at the proper time.

There is a difference between asking for an opinion on something and asking for an opinion on what kind of person I am (or what kind of person anyone else is). Now, for my point, you say it's wrong to move into a better section where the ushers don't check your tickets, but it's ok to come into the stadium for free when they are no longer scanning tickets at the entry? Both to me seem like simply doing what they allow you to do. (Just for the record, there isn't a way to get into the stadium without a ticket, because they station ushers at the doors to make sure no one comes in. My dad and my brother have both entered the stadium very late, like 6th inning or later and, while they weren't scanning tickets, my brother and my dad did have to show their tickets.)

Geez St. Louis get a life. Can't really say that when we're the ones sitting here posting on an online sports message board.... http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif

I disagree, because what are you taking from anyone? Let's say you are already in the game with a terrace ticket. And, there is a completely empty section down in the loge level, for example. The Brewers are absolutely no worse off than if you had stayed up in the terrace level. (In fact, you could even make the argument that they are better off, since the person feels like they're really getting their money's worth and may be more apt to come back to Miller Park soon.) And, since the section is almost completely empty, as long as you sit toward the back you aren't taking anyone else's seat. Also, I was talking to a guy once who once went to a Brewers-Marlins game in Florida. the stadium was fairly empty and the ushers came up to him and his family and told them to all move down into the first couple rows because the owners weren't coming. Now, they obviously didn't pay for owner's box tickets, so would you consider that stealing too? My theory is that it depends on the rules of the park. If the ushers allow you to sit down in a better section (or just let you by without bothering to check your ticket), then the "rules of the park" allow you to sit there IMHO. If you get by an usher who should be checking your ticket but doesn't (ie, in the Field Level), more power to you. You see it as stealing, but I see it as getting the best value you possibly can for the money you spend. (edit: long quote --1992)

How about this: Quality Start = 6+ IP and an ERA of no higher than 4.5 for the game by itself. 6-7.2 IP and 3 ER gets it done. So does 8+ IP and 4 ER. If you wanted to get stricter about it, you could even lower the required ERA for that game to something like 4.25 or 4.00. (Lowering it to 4.00 would require 6-6.2 IP and 2 ER, 7-8.2 IP and 3 ER, or 9 IP and 4 ER.)

How about this: Quality Start = 6+ IP and an ERA of no higher than 4.5 for the game by itself. 6-7.2 IP and 3 ER gets it done. So does 8+ IP and 4 ER. If you wanted to get stricter about it, you could even lower the required ERA for that game to something like 4.25 or 4.00. (Lowering it to 4.00 would require 6-6.2 IP and 2 ER, 7-8.2 IP and 3 ER, or 9 IP and 4 ER.)

How about this: Quality Start = 6+ IP and an ERA of no higher than 4.5 for the game by itself. 6-7.2 IP and 3 ER gets it done. So does 8+ IP and 4 ER. If you wanted to get stricter about it, you could even lower the required ERA for that game to something like 4.25 or 4.00. (Lowering it to 4.00 would require 6-6.2 IP and 2 ER, 7-8.2 IP and 3 ER, or 9 IP and 4 ER.)

Since in the Happy Youngster thread, he (among other things) got blasted for seat hopping during the game and sitting in seats for which he doesn't have tickets, I was wondering what people think about this in general. Personally, I would say that it's ok to sit in seats for which you don't have tickets as long as a) the ushers allow it/don't ask you to leave, and b) someone with tickets for those seats doesn't show up. Other than that, I think you're fine. At Miller Park, they make the announcement that the staff will check tickets and that only people with a ticket for a particular seat will be able to occupy that seat. However, as some of you probably know, they only enforce this strictly on the Field Level. Therefore, since they don't check tickets and follow through on their stated policy elsewhere, I think it's ok to sit there - provided someone with those seats doesn't show up. Looking forward to hear your guys' opinions on this, since some people seemed to be pretty negative about it in the HY thread. EDIT: Mods, please move if this doesn't belong in the Major League forum.

2.) It's not the class, it's the professor. In some of your general courses, you may have a choice of a dozen different professors. Talk to some of the upperclassmen and find out who to take. Some professors can teach, some can't. Ratemyprofessors.com. Some decent info on there. All more collected than talking to a bunch of people. Once you start getting into your more focused classes (in my case business classes), then ask some of the upper classmen you know who share your major.

Personally, I could care less whether the road uni says "Milwaukee" or "Brewers." Could anyone say why they prefer "Milwaukee" so much?

Actually, free parking is parking on one of the many streets around Miller Park where it is allowed during games. That way, you don't even have to throw down money at the bar or give the shuttle guy a tip. It could mean a 15-minute walk (maybe more if you get there for a really crowded game), but if you have to wait for a shuttle because you can't get onto the first one you could almost be to your car in that time anyways. Another advantage is that, other than the foot traffic, you don't have to worry about traffic getting out of the parking lot. And this is just my personal opinion, but if I didn't have full season tickets and I wanted to see a decent amount of games for a cheap price, I would go with the FC 20-pack in the terrace ($200 per ticket instead of $126 for a 9-pack). I would pick all the good games (ie Opening Day, Cubs games, all-fan giveaways, etc.). I would go to the games I could and sell the ones I couldn't make - by picking good games, you pretty much ensure that you will get your money back for sold tickets most of the time - either on here, on stubhub, from a friend who wants to go, or by selling them at the game. Also, with a 20-pack, you have trade-in privileges that you may or may not have with a 9-pack as well as opportunities for extra single-game tix and full strip playoff tix before the general public. If I wanted to go to any random games during the week, I would buy tix dirt-cheap on Stubhub (and I mean dirt cheap, as in $1 per ticket plus $5 for edelivery per order for some games) or at the game in the parking lots. Because, if the game isn't sold out, anyone selling tickets at the game pretty much has to offer them below the box office price - which yesterday would've meant under $7 for terrace tickets. IK this may not be what you're looking for and you may not be interested in going to 20 games a year, but this IMHO is a much better deal than a 9-pack.

Is it just me or do they play Hells Bells louder than any other music they play over the speakers? Last night I tried saying something to my dad during his intro and he could barely hear me. Also, as a random point that may be of interest to some people, when Trevor Hoffman gets to Miller Park, he gets out of his car, puts on a helmet, and hops on a skateboard to get down to the entrance to the stadium. That seems pretty cool/unique to me.

At a Brewers-Phillies game back in 2007 (Chris Capuano bobblehead day, in case anyone remembers the game), the Brewers blew a 6-0 lead and lost in extras. As I was walking out of the stadium and through the parking lots back to my car, a CUBS FAN was chanting "Let's go Cubbies!" The worst part is was that the Cubbies had a home game that night. Granted, rain was in the forecast, but instead of going and supporting her team play, she drove to Milwaukee to root against the Brewers and rub it in our faces that we just blew the game. Also, someone I know ushers at Miller Park. He handled 13 ejections at one of the night games during the big series with the Cubbies last July. All or nearly all of them were Cubs fans. In the words of Bob from Bob and Brian in the Morning, it's not like they are courteous guests who come in and just root on their team. They are obnoxious guests who, in his words, "trash the place" and show no respect for anyone or anything but themselves. And that's even during a weeknight game. Last September, I had a ticket to the Friday night game with the Cubs during the last series. In response to how poorly we had recently played, I evaluated my options and decided I'd rather sell my ticket for face and get my money back than risk going by myself and sitting up in the terrace with a bunch of Cubs fans who were drunk out of their minds and who would absolutely rub it in all of our faces that our playoff chances were going down the tubes. Obviously, in hindsight, I wish I would have gone to the game, as it was a thriller and the second to last step in clinching our playoff spot. But I wasn't about to want to go by myself and put up with all the crap that a Brewers-Cubs game brings when we had a chance of having absolutely nothing to play for. Now, this isn't to say that all Cub s fans are obnoxious. For a couple games last year, there was the same group of a couple Cubs fans who sat in front of my seats for about 3 Cubs games. They were as polite as anyone could be. And then there was a guy trying to sell tickets at a game earlier this year, and I told him where the resale zone was where he might have a better chance of selling them. He was nice too and thanked me. Also, I have seen drunk, obnoxious Brewer fans - especially at the Saturday night game against the Cubs here earlier this year back in April. A couple of them even got kicked out, and it pained me to see that. Maybe I'm just trying to justify things, but my theory is that if Cubs fans weren't so loud and obnoxious when they came to our park in the first place, Brewers fans wouldn't give it back to them.

Since you guys are sharing your parking secrets, I'll throw out a place I usually park. I try to park on Wisconsin, but when I get there late I park on 49th. It is a 15-20 minute walk, but it is a good option when I get there near gametime. It dead-ends 2 blocks north of Wisconsin just past Wells, right by a little church. You could even park in the church parking lot if you really want to, but I usually don't. I don't ever remember a game where I tried to park there but couldn't. That being said, I have never tried to park there for Opening Day or a super-crowded Cubs game. And, I have had to park at the very end on the curve of the cul-du-sac a couple of times (such as this past Sunday, when I got there about an hour early and barely got the last spot). But, while Wisconsin and Wells may be filled up for almost a mile west of there well past Hawley Road, 49th is my best option when I get there close to gametime. For some sold out games, I have even got there less than a half hour before the game and had absolutely no problem getting a spot. Thanks a ton, guys, for all the tips.

so can you actually park there as long as you don't stay there for the game? I'm trying to picture what you're talking about... is it just a little east of Miller Park Way? If it's closer and I could park there without getting a ticket, I think I'd rather try to park there.

billyhallfan, I know what you're talking about, that's Story Hill. I think I will try parking there since I'll be out of there plenty early. Thanks for the input guys.

Question for you guys.... I'm hoping to get to the players' parking lot next Tuesday before the game. I'm going to go for autographs, leave for a couple hours at about 3 or 3:30 once all the players are inside, and then come back for the game. So my question is whether or not I could park in the Miller Park lots, as opposed to parking on the street, since I'm going to be leaving before the lots open at 4. Has anyone done this before, or does anyone know if this would be allowed?

This may be repeating someone's idea, or it may just be combining a couple different people's ideas... I would vote for lines outside, each being watched by an usher starting at 3pm. The usher hands out tickets, each with a number, as people get in the line at the back. They have a max of 100 tickets per line, and they tell everyone that no autograph is guaranteed, it is only as time permits. A tickets only guarantees you a chance at an auto. They could open the gates at 5:15pm. A new usher would lead the line down to the appropriate section. At the front of the line, that usher would collect each person's ticket. No one could skip because the tickets would be in order, and if you do somehow get skipped, you simply make sure to get down by the usher and let him know that you have the ticket for the X place in line when it comes up. Also, if you want to save a spot in line for someone, you have to completely give up your place in line by giving them your ticket. Now here's a general opinion of mine: There is a reason the dealers sell autos that are all "high-quality" (ie, in blue Sharpie on photos or in blue ballpoint pen on balls). It's because they are worth more. They're worht more because the demand is higher for them, ie more buyers of autographs want them that way. If a buyer of an autograph wants it a certain high-quality way, it is completely logical and rational that a person obtaining an autograph for himself or herself wants it the same high-quality way. JMHO.

I am hoping/planning to go next Tuesday before the game.... assuming I do well enough on my Stats exam this Friday that I don't have to take the final next week.

The current rule could also be a problem if a play is called a HR (in which the players would trot around the bases) but is then reversed to not be a HR. I don't know if this is the case or not, but maybe umps are told to err on the side of calling it in play and not a HR so the play continues. If that is the case, they could be told to also err on the side of calling close ones fair instead of foul. So the fair/foul replay wouldn't create any problems that aren't around now with the current replay system, unless I'm missing something about the current replay rules.

Bud Drinker and Brewer fan here. I usually have to drive when I tailgate, though, so generally I don't drink at Miller Park. But, I definitely take heat from all my roommates for drinking Bud, especially when we're having fun out in our front yard before Badger football games. My response to them is that I let my taste buds decide http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif Not trying to stir anything up here, but I like the taste of Bud better. Doesn't mean I hate Miller or that I refuse to drink it or anything like that. A lot of people try to tell me that Bud tastes like dog piss and things like that. But to me, Miller has a weaker taste, especially after drinking a couple of Bud Lights. All else equal, I would choose Bud over Miller. It comes down to my personal taste. But in the end, beer is beer, and my preference for Bud isn't all that intense.

Bad analaogy... last time I checked, baseball instant replay doesn't affect a player's safety. Even still, I see your point.

I think topper09er brings up one very good point, and that is that the institution of replay on plays other than home runs is easier said than done. Fair/foul I guess I can see though, since it is like the HR situation - either the play is still live, or it is dead at the point the ball hits the dirt. In this case you don't have to worry about all the "what-ifs" as to what would happen if the play would've continued the other way (like you would have to in the ball caught/not caught scenario). And I find the video game comparisons interesting because, while I don't currently own a baseball video game, from the ones I remember playing, there are random times when a strike/ball is called incorrectly. The system may call a pitch a little outside the zone a strike or a pitch just inside the zone a ball. That's obviously a lot less important than actual MLB games, but I always was entertained by the "missed calls" in the game and enjoyed seeing them once in a while.

And you need a ticket to get into Fridays. They scan it when you enter. You have no choice but to go to Friday's or to the Team Store because there are big barricades/fences up that prevent you from going anywhere else. Once you enter to go into Friday's, you're stuck in there until the stadium gates technically open.

If the players are coming in with luggage on get-away day (ie this Sunday), might they be less apt to sign at the players lot? Anyone who is a regular there with experience know if this correct? Or is it pretty much just like other games as far as who signs and how many guys might sign on their way in to the stadium?